Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-26-2009, 04:05 PM  
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $2033447
Your grade of each individual pick in our draft.

Here goes...

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - B

I understand the Chiefs had three options: (a.) trade down when nobody wants to, (b.) take a player at good value but zero need, or (c.) make a slight reach for extreme need. The last was the best choice here, but I thought Raji would have been the better pick. Nevertheless, it's hard to complain about the best pure 3-4 DE in this Draft.

3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue - A

This was solid value for a player that will help this team out every bit that Jackson will. Magee is a very high character guy that was born with a lunchpail mentality. I hesitate to say he's the 2nd best pure 3-4 DE in this Draft, but I can't name anybody but Jackson that's obviously better. He will likely start right away.

4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State - B

Washington was great value, and if this was anywhere near being a need for us, this is an A. Simple as that. But there were so many OL and OLB available here that would have been great picks for us it's hard for me to get that excited about him. Washington should start over Carr on day one.

5. OT Cody Brown, Missouri - F

Thank god for Oakland... otherwise this would be considered the biggest reach of the draft. In the 5th round, that's incredibly hard to do. I don't know what Pioli sees in this guy to suggest he's a powerful run-blocker that could start on this team. I personally believe, right now, this guy can't be anything more than our third RT on the depth chart.

6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State - C

Not crazy about this pick, because I think there were better weapons on the board (but don't I *always* think that?). Still, Lawrence has outstanding speed and if he adjusts pretty well this year, should get some serious playing time next year. He is an intriguing prospect, easily the most interesting of everybody on this particular board.

7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State - A

This was a great, great great great pick. This guy is a poor man's LJ. Which is ironic, considering that right now LJ is a poor man's LJ. This seals the deal for Two-Sev as far as I'm concerned. See ya.

7. TBA
Posts: 59,693
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:09 AM   #136
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $2033447
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.
I gave a C- for their first day. I was happy about the Chiefs' second day. But forget it.

Being an optimist doesn't always mean you're happy with what the team does. Being a pessimist doesn't always mean you're unhappy with what the team does.

Unlike you guys, I understand I literally have nothing to gain from being right, and nothing to gain from being wrong. I've been dead wrong on this Draft so far, but I do what you do. I put in my time reading and watching, I wager my best guesses, I try to stay consistent and organic with my preferences, and then hope the Chiefs are right.

I do it more openly than most (one year I had a running total of the top five players available throughout the entire mock), so I'm a lightning rod for the laziest kind of criticism. To mock me for that is ridiculous.
Posts: 59,693
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:11 AM   #137
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $2033447
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
All you have is hope.
Damn ****ing straight.

If that's wrong, then as the expression goes, I don't want to be right.
Posts: 59,693
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:12 AM   #138
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $2033447
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
The bottom line is that when the organization makes a move that people think is good, the so-called "haters" give them praise.

Just because 90+% of the moves are bad doesn't make them haters, it makes them aware of the fact that the moves are bad.

I fail to see why I should give some no-neck **** like Pioli, who's making millions of dollars a year, a ****ing participation ribbon because he makes a move. If it sucks, it sucks, and should be characterized as such.
I'm not giving anybody Special Olympics ribbons. For a guy who's claiming to be mischaracterized, you'd doing a truckload of it yourself.
Posts: 59,693
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:17 AM   #139
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $2033447
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon View Post
A) is sort of odd to me.

The dude gives the 2008 draft a C- when everyone was RAVING about how excellent we made out, and then when everyone talks about how terrible our 2009 draft was he comes out with some good grades...

Sounds like a case of attention whoring to me. I don't like it when people don't call them how they see it...I may be wrong at times but at least I call them how I see them.
Talk to the guys I debated with ALL OFFSEASON about how consistent that first day Draft grade was. Mecca, OTW, milkman -- we had tons of debates over it.

I really liked the Dorsey pick, but I would have preferred Sedrick Ellis. Which I said.

I really hated the Albert pick, because converting a guard to tackle, especially trading up for it, was such a risky proposition I wanted no part of it in a rebuilding year. Milkman and I went 100 rounds on it.

I was incredibly hesitant about the Flowers selection because of what I thought were character concerns. And I said so, Mecca criticized me for it.

My takes typically have always run counter to what a lot of people's, but I've worked for and earned a reputation for being as straightforward with my preferences as anybody here.
Posts: 59,693
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:46 AM   #140
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7129572
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
I'm not giving anybody Special Olympics ribbons. For a guy who's claiming to be mischaracterized, you'd doing a truckload of it yourself.
1) I don't claim to be mischaracterized
2) You can't bitch about people being pessimists who always gripe about stuff when on the occasions that the franchise does things they agree with, they praise it for it.
3) You can't categorize yourself as an optimist in a feeble and transparent attempt to martyr yourself and expect people to take you seriously.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:50 AM   #141
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7129572
FWIW, the height of irony is Dshun claiming that he's being mischaracterized when he's making the completely idiotic claim that people would rather the Chiefs do poorly and they be right then vice versa.

It's a piss poor derivative of the "you aren't working for X" claim. If you want WPI, where every move is celebrated, then ****ing go there. I was under the impression that the purpose of this forum was to state your opinion and back up those claims with evidence, and it hasn't exactly taken a spelunking expedition to find reasons for concern about this regime.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:54 AM   #142
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-712950
I spent an hour during the 2008 draft defending the selection of Jamaal Charles...yet I'm supposedly the most pessimistic "bad fan" around here.

There's a lot more foundation on this team from that lone draft than there is from any move Pioli has made so far, seems pretty easy to see why Pioli is heavily scrutinized for these moves he makes.

Unless of course you just want to praise everything and not look at anything with any kind of critical thinking.
Posts: 115,380
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:54 AM   #143
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-712950
I spent an hour during the 2008 draft defending the selection of Jamaal Charles...yet I'm supposedly the most pessimistic "bad fan" around here.

There's a lot more foundation on this team from that lone draft than there is from any move Pioli has made so far, seems pretty easy to see why Pioli is heavily scrutinized for these moves he makes.

Unless of course you just want to praise everything and not look at anything with any kind of critical thinking.
Posts: 115,380
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:58 AM   #144
Mr. Flopnuts Mr. Flopnuts is offline
FINALLY! The wait is over.
 
Mr. Flopnuts's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Future Is Now!!!
Casino cash: $19947565
I can't wait until this year's draft rolls around and people start up the Pioli is executive of the decade call again.

After the abortion he had last year, no one should give him a pass on any pick this year. He better improve, or we're ****ed.
__________________
2018 Adopt A Chief: Sammy Watkins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
Fair and balanced. A mod people can be proud of.
Posts: 56,649
Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2010, 01:59 AM   #145
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-712950
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts View Post
I can't wait until this year's draft rolls around and people start up the Pioli is executive of the decade call again.

After the abortion he had last year, no one should give him a pass on any pick this year. He better improve, or we're ****ed.
It's going to be just like it was last year....this mofo is going to get the longest grace period ever.
Posts: 115,380
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:57 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.