Your grade of each individual pick in our draft. - Page 9

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 04:05 PM

Here goes...

1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - B

I understand the Chiefs had three options: (a.) trade down when nobody wants to, (b.) take a player at good value but zero need, or (c.) make a slight reach for extreme need. The last was the best choice here, but I thought Raji would have been the better pick. Nevertheless, it's hard to complain about the best pure 3-4 DE in this Draft.

3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue - A

This was solid value for a player that will help this team out every bit that Jackson will. Magee is a very high character guy that was born with a lunchpail mentality. I hesitate to say he's the 2nd best pure 3-4 DE in this Draft, but I can't name anybody but Jackson that's obviously better. He will likely start right away.

4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State - B

Washington was great value, and if this was anywhere near being a need for us, this is an A. Simple as that. But there were so many OL and OLB available here that would have been great picks for us it's hard for me to get that excited about him. Washington should start over Carr on day one.

5. OT Cody Brown, Missouri - F

Thank god for Oakland... otherwise this would be considered the biggest reach of the draft. In the 5th round, that's incredibly hard to do. I don't know what Pioli sees in this guy to suggest he's a powerful run-blocker that could start on this team. I personally believe, right now, this guy can't be anything more than our third RT on the depth chart.

6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State - C

Not crazy about this pick, because I think there were better weapons on the board (but don't I *always* think that?). Still, Lawrence has outstanding speed and if he adjusts pretty well this year, should get some serious playing time next year. He is an intriguing prospect, easily the most interesting of everybody on this particular board.

7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State - A

This was a great, great great great pick. This guy is a poor man's LJ. Which is ironic, considering that right now LJ is a poor man's LJ. This seals the deal for Two-Sev as far as I'm concerned. See ya.

7. TBA

Chiefnj2 · 02-15-2010, 01:42 PM

It goes to show that the team will likely draft players that makes nobody happy in the end. Sanchez, Curry, OL, pass rusher, etc. No matter what camp you were in for the first 4 rounds or so, you were disappointed. Similarly, for the most part people liked some of Herm's drafts where Dorsey, Tank and Turk were considered good players and good value picks.

Mr. Laz · 02-15-2010, 02:07 PM

nobody has impressed thus far but it's still too early to judge ... especially on a guy like Colin Brown who was hurt.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 02:07 PM

All it shows right now is that the team was wrong and had a horrid draft.

(subject to change, of course)

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2010, 02:12 PM

I don't think this is funny, at all.

Besides the fact that picks 1, 2 and 3 sucked ass, with the exception of Succop, the rest of the draft sucked as well.

If the Chiefs had taken Murphy in the 4th and Ellison in the 6th along with Succop, it would have been much easier to live with blowing the day one picks.

All I can say is that they'd better pull a rabbit out of the hat in the 2010 draft, or this team is going to continue to be stuck in neutral for the foreseeable future.

**RealSNR** · 02-15-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I can say is that they'd better pull a rabbit out of the hat in the 2010 draft, or this team is going to continue to be stuck in a ditch on fire while stoned teenagers throw poop at it for the foreseeable future.

FYP

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

FYP

Thanks for fixing my post.

Direckshun · 02-15-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Bump for a laugh

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

Ralphy Boy · 02-15-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

No matter how you slice it, we still aren't going to have a pass rush and I just don't get that. I have no idea how a GM can look at a team that set a record for the lowest sack total in league history and not upgrade the pass rush. Taking Jackson in the first, fine. But to pass on every other pass rusher in the draft....

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Oh? And what pass rushers were there that the Chiefs could get?

I wanted Orakpo instead of TJ, but beyond the first round I got nothing.

Chiefnj2 · 02-15-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

The bump wasn't aimed at you. I was just looking for an initial reaction thread. Between now and the draft there will be 100s of posts about how stupid other people are for wanting X, Y, Z instead of A, B, C. In all likelihood everyone will be disappointed at the end of the day.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The bump wasn't aimed at you. I was just looking for an initial reaction thread. Between now and the draft there will be 100s of posts about how stupid other people are for wanting X, Y, Z instead of A, B, C. In all likelihood everyone will be disappointed at the end of the day.

Disappointed with the Chiefs selections or with the rookie seasons of guys the Chiefs passed on?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-15-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-15-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Sure, hate on a guy who put his opinion out there and dared to be optimistic.

It is way too ****ing easy to be pessimistic, to snipe, to keep your opinions to yourself for fear that the Draft Gods or Haters will trounce your opinion until it's irrelevent to everybody but your mother.

I'm not going to just shit out happy thoughts and pray. I genuinely thought this was a good Draft, and TO BE FAIR, virtually every single one of these picks were projects, something which I hadn't anticipated on Draft Day. Jackson and Succop are the ONLY players from this Draft that were readymade.

So no, the jury is still out a couple more years. And I could still be wrong. But I'm not going to resign to blind pessimism simply because it's easier to be that way.

All you have is hope.

The bottom line is that outside of Mr. Irrelevant, this draft ****ing sucked ass.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-15-2010, 10:55 PM

The bottom line is that when the organization makes a move that people think is good, the so-called "haters" give them praise.

Just because 90+% of the moves are bad doesn't make them haters, it makes them aware of the fact that the moves are bad.

I fail to see why I should give some no-neck **** like Pioli, who's making millions of dollars a year, a ****ing participation ribbon because he makes a move. If it sucks, it sucks, and should be characterized as such.

Hootie · 02-15-2010, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd have more respect for this post if it

A) acknowledged that you gave the Chiefs a C- for their 2008 draft

B) acknowledged that the "perpetual pessimists" were up in arms with joy over the 2008 draft.

A) is sort of odd to me.

The dude gives the 2008 draft a C- when everyone was RAVING about how excellent we made out, and then when everyone talks about how terrible our 2009 draft was he comes out with some good grades...

Sounds like a case of attention whoring to me. I don't like it when people don't call them how they see it...I may be wrong at times but at least I call them how I see them.

04-26-2009, 04:05 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Your grade of each individual pick in our draft. Here goes... 1. DE Tyson Jackson, LSU - B I understand the Chiefs had three options: (a.) trade down when nobody wants to, (b.) take a player at good value but zero need, or (c.) make a slight reach for extreme need. The last was the best choice here, but I thought Raji would have been the better pick. Nevertheless, it's hard to complain about the best pure 3-4 DE in this Draft. 3. DE Alex Magee, Purdue - A This was solid value for a player that will help this team out every bit that Jackson will. Magee is a very high character guy that was born with a lunchpail mentality. I hesitate to say he's the 2nd best pure 3-4 DE in this Draft, but I can't name anybody but Jackson that's obviously better. He will likely start right away. 4. CB Donald Washington, Ohio State - B Washington was great value, and if this was anywhere near being a need for us, this is an A. Simple as that. But there were so many OL and OLB available here that would have been great picks for us it's hard for me to get that excited about him. Washington should start over Carr on day one. 5. OT Cody Brown, Missouri - F Thank god for Oakland... otherwise this would be considered the biggest reach of the draft. In the 5th round, that's incredibly hard to do. I don't know what Pioli sees in this guy to suggest he's a powerful run-blocker that could start on this team. I personally believe, right now, this guy can't be anything more than our third RT on the depth chart. 6. WR Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State - C Not crazy about this pick, because I think there were better weapons on the board (but don't I always think that?). Still, Lawrence has outstanding speed and if he adjusts pretty well this year, should get some serious playing time next year. He is an intriguing prospect, easily the most interesting of everybody on this particular board. 7. RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee State - A This was a great, great great great pick. This guy is a poor man's LJ. Which is ironic, considering that right now LJ is a poor man's LJ. This seals the deal for Two-Sev as far as I'm concerned. See ya. 7. TBA
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	It goes to show that the team will likely draft players that makes nobody happy in the end. Sanchez, Curry, OL, pass rusher, etc. No matter what camp you were in for the first 4 rounds or so, you were disappointed. Similarly, for the most part people liked some of Herm's drafts where Dorsey, Tank and Turk were considered good players and good value picks. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I don't think this is funny, at all. Besides the fact that picks 1, 2 and 3 sucked ass, with the exception of Succop, the rest of the draft sucked as well. If the Chiefs had taken Murphy in the 4th and Ellison in the 6th along with Succop, it would have been much easier to live with blowing the day one picks. All I can say is that they'd better pull a rabbit out of the hat in the 2010 draft, or this team is going to continue to be stuck in neutral for the foreseeable future.
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02-15-2010, 10:55 PM	#134
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	The bottom line is that when the organization makes a move that people think is good, the so-called "haters" give them praise. Just because 90+% of the moves are bad doesn't make them haters, it makes them aware of the fact that the moves are bad. I fail to see why I should give some no-neck ** like Pioli, who's making millions of dollars a year, a **ing participation ribbon because he makes a move. If it sucks, it sucks, and should be characterized as such. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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