Chiefs I like what Haley did yesterday... - Page 13

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 07:36 AM

3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the ****ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ****ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2.

Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 ****ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did.

It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces.

I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.

**kysirsoze** · 09-28-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

But I don't think anyone is calling this into question. What is yet to be determined, however, is whether Haley is in over his head as a HC, especially with all of his additional responsibilities.

That line was in response to the question of if I was indeed aware he had at one time been an offensive coordinator. I am. I even saw him call a game once!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-28-2009, 01:52 PM

In less than a year's time, this fanbase has gone from reading Herm Edwards the riot act over not kicking a field goal late in a game that would have kept us from getting shut out - to saying it's perfectly ****ing acceptable to completely quit trying to win coming out of the tunnel after HALFTIME.

dallaschiefsfan · 09-28-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In less than a year's time, this fanbase has gone from reading Herm Edwards the riot act over not kicking a field goal late in a game that would have kept us from getting shut out - to saying it's perfectly ****ing acceptable to completely quit trying to win coming out of the tunnel after HALFTIME.

REACH based upon your preferred assumptions...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-28-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

REACH based upon your preferred assumptions...

What am I reaching for?

This place went to DefCon 2 after the Carolina game because Herm didn't kick a ****ing field goal to keep from getting shut out.

And now people are saying it's OK to quit to "send a message."

I'd love to know where you think I'm reaching.

**kysirsoze** · 09-28-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In less than a year's time, this fanbase has gone from reading Herm Edwards the riot act over not kicking a field goal late in a game that would have kept us from getting shut out - to saying it's perfectly ****ing acceptable to completely quit trying to win coming out of the tunnel after HALFTIME.

Oversimplify much? I think everything in this post has been addressed in the thread. I understand the frustration but you're comparing apples to oranges.

Fish · 09-28-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

REACH based upon your preferred assumptions...

Considering your avatar, signature, and description all still criticize Herm after he's been gone this long.... yeah... forgive me if I don't take your post seriously...

dallaschiefsfan · 09-28-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What am I reaching for?

This place went to DefCon 2 after the Carolina game because Herm didn't kick a ****ing field goal to keep from getting shut out.

And now people are saying it's OK to quit to "send a message."

I'd love to know where you think I'm reaching.

See...that's just it. You're reaching because you've already decided that Haley had bad motives in the 2nd half and was intent on sending a message. That's your opinion. Besides, how in the hell is Haley "quitting" in any way if the offensive line doesn't do their job on every damn play he calls?

dallaschiefsfan · 09-28-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Considering your avatar, signature, and description all still criticize Herm after he's been gone this long.... yeah... forgive me if I don't take your post seriously...

Dude...I have avatar and sig turned off on my preferences...so that stuff might as well not exist in my world. If that's your litmus for taking somebody seriously, whatever.

Chief Faithful · 09-28-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I don't think Haley is the metaphoric type, sooooo....I think he meant that good coaching could improve any groupl of NFL players, and now he's beginning to learn otherwise.

"No more fancy trick offense"? Did we just come off the Herm era? If you're alluding to the pistol, neither of those two adjectives are applicable, IMO.

I'm alluding to Gailey and how he modified the offense to take advantage of what his players could do and didn't ask them to do things they didn't do well. Haley obviously didn't think this was the right approach to rebuilding and I agree.

Chief Faithful · 09-28-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Quitting, as he did yesterday, is a pussy move, yes.

Is he a pussy? I tend to doubt it, but who knows.

I don't understand how he quit. Trying to establish the run in the third quarter when down by 3 scores is quitting?

Chiefnj2 · 09-28-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I don't understand how he quit. Trying to establish the run in the third quarter when down by 3 scores is quitting?

Probably not quitting, but at a minimum it is trying to run the clock so the final score doesn't get more lopsided.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-28-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I don't understand how he quit. Trying to establish the run in the third quarter when down by 3 scores is quitting?

3rd quarter that was fine. You can still try to score with a balanced conventional offense to get back in the game, but down 20 in the 4th and they are STILL doing it and not running the hurry up is just wrong.

Earthling · 09-28-2009, 04:22 PM

It was brutal to watch, as a fan. But damn if driving the point home works then do whatever it takes...Three games in is pretty early to evaluate progress, but, we are NOT going to the playoffs this year. Get this thing working so we have a shot next year, is how I'm feeling. Penalties and blocking schemes...show improvement!!!

09-28-2009, 07:36 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1185873	I like what Haley did yesterday... 3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the **ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2. Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 **ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did. It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces. I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.
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09-28-2009, 01:52 PM	#182
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	In less than a year's time, this fanbase has gone from reading Herm Edwards the riot act over not kicking a field goal late in a game that would have kept us from getting shut out - to saying it's perfectly ****ing acceptable to completely quit trying to win coming out of the tunnel after HALFTIME.
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09-28-2009, 04:22 PM	#193
Earthling MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $10008447	It was brutal to watch, as a fan. But damn if driving the point home works then do whatever it takes...Three games in is pretty early to evaluate progress, but, we are NOT going to the playoffs this year. Get this thing working so we have a shot next year, is how I'm feeling. Penalties and blocking schemes...show improvement!!!
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