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**Tribal Warfare** · 02-23-2013, 03:32 PM

Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’

**Bowser** · 02-24-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

Which is exactly why you take a man like Joeckel, not Ge'o

I remember when Willie Roaf just ****ing willed the entire team to multiple Super Bowl championships. Those were the days.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-24-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I can't wait to see your face when Joeckel is taken at #1.

You're going to melt the **** down. Prob a lot like that crying Giants fan on youtube.

Thankyou, CoMo! Yes! Work that powerful mojo boy!
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Pasta Little Brioni · 02-24-2013, 02:40 PM

Doughboy left tackle at one when you have a Top 10 guy on your squad...only the Chiefs.

**The Franchise** · 02-24-2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't believe you're open to having it proved to you, but anyone who watches football should know that the move from tackle to guard isn't that uncommon. Going the other way is more so. Robert Gallery and Leonard Davis are the two examples that come immediately to my mind because they were both drafted in the top 5 to be LT but ended up finding their most success at G. Wade Smith is another example. Shawn Andrews went from college tackle to NFL guard and then, at the end of his career, out to NFL LT.

I looked at the first and third rounds of drafts from 2003 to 2007 (your 10 year window minus the most recent 5 years because those careers haven't had time to develop yet). There were 4 guys drafted as tackles in the first round during that stretch who ended up playing guard (Gallery, Andrews, Vernon Carey, and Chris Williams). All of them except for Andrews started out their NFL careers as tackles and Andrews finished his as one. There were 7 guys drafted in the third round as tackles who ended up playing guard at least to some extent. One of those guys was Eric Winston so his guard play was minimal. The others, including Wade Smith, spent more significant time at guard.

I said successfully played guard. Moving them to guard doesn't mean shit if they don't excel at it.

patteeu · 02-24-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I said successfully played guard. Moving them to guard doesn't mean shit if they don't excel at it.

Many of the players I counted were successful at guard. I mentioned several of them by name. You were wrong.

O.city · 02-24-2013, 04:15 PM

Were any of those guys ever a top 10 LT before they moved to guard? I have no idea, just asking.

htismaqe · 02-24-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Doughboy left tackle at one when you have a Top 10 guy on your squad...only the Chiefs.

Don't worry about it. Joeckel isn't going 1st overall.

patteeu · 02-24-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Were any of those guys ever a top 10 LT before they moved to guard? I have no idea, just asking.

No. Beyond that, I'd assume that most of them failed to stand out at tackle, ala Robert Gallery. But the argument is whether or not a successful tackle could be a successful guard and I think the answer is a clear yes in most cases. Particularly in the case of a successful tackle who was an outstanding guard in college.

02-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2867187	Teicher: Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position. “Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there. “There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’ Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston. “They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’
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