Chiefs Bob Sutton - Page 7

milkman · 05-07-2014, 08:32 AM

I have asked this in threads before, and I get no legitimate response, so I am going to start this thread.

Over and over, and over again, people keep saying that Sutton made no adjustments, and is responsible for the failures of this defense.

I have no dog in this, but I want to know, what exactly do you think he could do?

This defense was playing spectacularly for the first 5-6 games, but then Buffalo, Houston and the Donkeys had enough film to recognize that they could exploit the deep zones because Kendrick Lewis was almost always in the wrong place, and they adjusted their game plans to take full advantage.

Sutton tried to counter that by moving the corners off the line, which allowed offenses to exploit the short passing game and minimize the pass rush, which was also affected by the loss of Houston to injury, and a less than 100% Hali.

The one critisism that is completely valid is that Sutton did not utilize a rotaion on the line that kept Poe fresh, and he was not the same player for the 2nd half of the season that he was for the first half, because he was just worn out.

So, again, I ask, given the limitations of the talent, what exactly did you expect Sutton to do?

BryanBusby · 05-07-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Exactly, and he began to wear down by week 5.

Yep.

Now Sutton should absolutely be held responsible for continuing to trot out Kendrick Lewis, even though it was obvious he was a dried up dog turd.

splatbass · 05-07-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

I've posted my displeasure for sutton many times on here and I'm not going to go deep into it again, but I'll make a prediction, which is that we'll be calling for his head when its all said and done this season.

That is an easy prediction. This place is always calling for everyone's head. It doesn't mean Sutton is a problem though, just that this forum loves to bitch about everything.

tecumseh · 05-07-2014, 07:42 PM

I can split the difference of blame between Sutton and the lack of talent on defense. After the Colts loss, Brian Billick was asked how the Chiefs could have imploded so bad and he said " That guy (Hilton) making all the plays..I tell my DC if that guy catches one more ball , you're fired. I don't care if we lose but that guy doesn't catch another ball." I agree with this.

**Ragged Robin** · 05-07-2014, 11:02 PM

Sutton is trash and it's an absolute joke that he's still DC. The defense beat up on backups in the first half of the season but then got burned by virtually every team since the bye including the likes of Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, McGloin, etc. The complete and utter systematic dismantlement of them in the 2nd half against the Colts says it all.

Aspengc8 · 05-08-2014, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

Sutton is trash and it's an absolute joke that he's still DC. The defense beat up on backups in the first half of the season but then got burned by virtually every team since the bye including the likes of Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, McGloin, etc. The complete and utter systematic dismantlement of them in the 2nd half against the Colts says it all.

and that makes it a DC/play call problem, and not the guys doing the covering?

**Easy 6** · 05-08-2014, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tecumseh

I can split the difference of blame between Sutton and the lack of talent on defense. After the Colts loss, Brian Billick was asked how the Chiefs could have imploded so bad and he said " That guy (Hilton) making all the plays..I tell my DC if that guy catches one more ball , you're fired. I don't care if we lose but that guy doesn't catch another ball." I agree with this.

Agreed, splitting the difference sounds like the fairest answer here.

And yeah, I love Billicks answer.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-08-2014, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Yep.

Now Sutton should absolutely be held responsible for continuing to trot out Kendrick Lewis, even though it was obvious he was a dried up dog turd.

True, but who makes the final decisions on personnel moves? Doesn't the HC decide who is active? Reid should also share in this.

05-07-2014, 08:32 AM
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Bob Sutton I have asked this in threads before, and I get no legitimate response, so I am going to start this thread. Over and over, and over again, people keep saying that Sutton made no adjustments, and is responsible for the failures of this defense. I have no dog in this, but I want to know, what exactly do you think he could do? This defense was playing spectacularly for the first 5-6 games, but then Buffalo, Houston and the Donkeys had enough film to recognize that they could exploit the deep zones because Kendrick Lewis was almost always in the wrong place, and they adjusted their game plans to take full advantage. Sutton tried to counter that by moving the corners off the line, which allowed offenses to exploit the short passing game and minimize the pass rush, which was also affected by the loss of Houston to injury, and a less than 100% Hali. The one critisism that is completely valid is that Sutton did not utilize a rotaion on the line that kept Poe fresh, and he was not the same player for the 2nd half of the season that he was for the first half, because he was just worn out. So, again, I ask, given the limitations of the talent, what exactly did you expect Sutton to do?
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05-07-2014, 07:42 PM	#93
tecumseh Veteran Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sweet Spot Casino cash: $9980615	I can split the difference of blame between Sutton and the lack of talent on defense. After the Colts loss, Brian Billick was asked how the Chiefs could have imploded so bad and he said " That guy (Hilton) making all the plays..I tell my DC if that guy catches one more ball , you're fired. I don't care if we lose but that guy doesn't catch another ball." I agree with this.
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