Mock Offseason - Page 2

staylor26 · 09:58 PM

Re-sign:

Houston
Hudson
Parker
Mauga
Harris
Martin

Re-structure:

Hali
Bowe

Cut:

DeVito
Avery
Fasano
Jenkins
Mays

FA:

BJ Raji, NT/DE, Packers- one year deal. Gives him a year to prove himself and earn one good last contract and gives us a potential one year steal.

Virgil Green, TE, Broncos- we need a blocking TE. Would also be nice to see the Broncos lose both him and Thomas.

Cecil Shorts, WR, Jaguars- Dorsey loves taking chances on guys with an injury history and Shorts seems like the typical Dorsey signing. When healthy he's a starting quality wideout. Will push give Wilson and draft pick competition.

Draft:

1. La'el Collins, OT/OG, LSU- just plug him in at LG and profit. With the addition of Collins, return of Jeff Allen, and development of Fisher and Fulton I fully expect this line to be much better in 2015.

2. Rashad Greene, WR, FSU- this is what we need at WR. A guy with very good speed that runs great routes and gets separation. He can come in day one and start opposite of Bowe. Him and Shorts give us two guys that can consistently get open.

3. Cody Prewitt, S, Ole Miss- I think Prewitt makes it to the 3rd round and when he does the Chiefs won't hesitate to select the former Rebel. He can play deep or in the box.

3. Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson- ILB play was awful due to injuries and lack of depth this past season. Anothony gives us a guy at a good value that can come in and compete for a starting job day one.

4. Donovan Smith, T, Penn State- this guy had a great senior bowl week and gives us depth at OT since Collins will be starting at guard.

5. Karlos Williams, RB, FSU- I think we take a back at some point (this RB class is fantastic) and Williams seems like a prospect Dorsey will be drooling over with his height/weight/speed ratio.

5. Jordan Hicks, OLB/ILB, Texas- has the upside to be DJ's future replacement, but has battled injuries. Sound like a Dorsey prospect?

5. Kasen Williams, WR, Washington- a potential sleeper with great size that can come in and compete with Da'Rick for a roster spot.

6. Ray Drew, DE, Georgia- versatile lineman with experience in a 3/4.

7. Blake Sims, QB, Alabama- a guy Reid probably likes that can get a look in camp.

7. Tyler Varga, RB/FB, Yale

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-28-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

We already have a blocking TE opposite Kelce that provides more, embarassingly, in the pass game with Alex Smith than Green does with Peyton Manning.

Fasano is an oxygen theif who's also currently stealing $4 million per year.

He has to go.

jd1020 · 01-28-2015, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fasano is an oxygen theif who's also currently stealing $4 million per year.

He has to go.

That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

kccrow · 01-28-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

He's become an outstanding blocker, but he can catch the ball. He went to Nevada as a WR and was moved to TE. At Nevada he actually caught the ball pretty well, with over 500 yards receiving as a senior. NFL.com didn't even think he'd be a very good blocker in the pros, but thought he'd be an outstanding seam-attacking, vertical threat TE/H-back in their scouting report of him. He's got the goods if he's used that way. The very fact that he has become a devastating run blocker is the bonus. I've been mocking him into my offseason plans as well because the potential is there. A few years ago I thought the same thing of Martellus Bennett and he's turned out to be a rather good feature TE. I wouldn't count the chickens before they hatch.

jd1020 · 01-28-2015, 08:12 PM

Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career.

His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.

kccrow · 01-28-2015, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career.

His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.

Thomas and Tamme were the primary receiving threats featured at the position. I'm not arguing how often he was used, I'm arguing that the guy can catch the football.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-28-2015, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

Jason Dunn was a "glorified" OT for the Chiefs during the Vermeil years and that offense was amazing.

Don't underestimate the benefit of a great blocking tight end.

jd1020 · 01-28-2015, 09:09 PM

If he was a reliable target wouldn't you think he would manage to have more receiving production than a guy who didn't start a single game?

jd1020 · 01-28-2015, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Jason Dunn was a "glorified" OT for the Chiefs during the Vermeil years and that offense was amazing.

Don't underestimate the benefit of a great blocking tight end.

So all we need is one of the greatest TE's of all time to line up opposite of Green and for Alex to go deep?

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2015, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

So all we need is one of the greatest TE's of all time to line up opposite of Green and for Alex to go deep?

Good grief

jd1020 · 01-29-2015, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good grief

Ya. I thought the same thing when you tried comparing the success of that offense to this one.

I mean... **** the HoF OL. **** the HoF TE. **** the fact that the offensive system is completely different. They had a blocking TE and it was a good offense!!

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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-2130960	Mock Offseason Re-sign: Houston Hudson Parker Mauga Harris Martin Re-structure: Hali Bowe Cut: DeVito Avery Fasano Jenkins Mays FA: BJ Raji, NT/DE, Packers- one year deal. Gives him a year to prove himself and earn one good last contract and gives us a potential one year steal. Virgil Green, TE, Broncos- we need a blocking TE. Would also be nice to see the Broncos lose both him and Thomas. Cecil Shorts, WR, Jaguars- Dorsey loves taking chances on guys with an injury history and Shorts seems like the typical Dorsey signing. When healthy he's a starting quality wideout. Will push give Wilson and draft pick competition. Draft: 1. La'el Collins, OT/OG, LSU- just plug him in at LG and profit. With the addition of Collins, return of Jeff Allen, and development of Fisher and Fulton I fully expect this line to be much better in 2015. 2. Rashad Greene, WR, FSU- this is what we need at WR. A guy with very good speed that runs great routes and gets separation. He can come in day one and start opposite of Bowe. Him and Shorts give us two guys that can consistently get open. 3. Cody Prewitt, S, Ole Miss- I think Prewitt makes it to the 3rd round and when he does the Chiefs won't hesitate to select the former Rebel. He can play deep or in the box. 3. Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson- ILB play was awful due to injuries and lack of depth this past season. Anothony gives us a guy at a good value that can come in and compete for a starting job day one. 4. Donovan Smith, T, Penn State- this guy had a great senior bowl week and gives us depth at OT since Collins will be starting at guard. 5. Karlos Williams, RB, FSU- I think we take a back at some point (this RB class is fantastic) and Williams seems like a prospect Dorsey will be drooling over with his height/weight/speed ratio. 5. Jordan Hicks, OLB/ILB, Texas- has the upside to be DJ's future replacement, but has battled injuries. Sound like a Dorsey prospect? 5. Kasen Williams, WR, Washington- a potential sleeper with great size that can come in and compete with Da'Rick for a roster spot. 6. Ray Drew, DE, Georgia- versatile lineman with experience in a 3/4. 7. Blake Sims, QB, Alabama- a guy Reid probably likes that can get a look in camp. 7. Tyler Varga, RB/FB, Yale Last edited by staylor26; 01-26-2015 at 09:58 PM..
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $6922645	Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career. His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.
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