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Old 08-22-2017, 09:21 AM  
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Alex Smith praises Patrick Mahomes' ability to absorb coaching

Alex Smith praises Patrick Mahomes' ability to absorb coaching

Alex Smith knows what it’s like to be a first-round pick with high expectations.

Selected first overall by the San Francisco 49ers in the 2005 draft, the current Chiefs starting quarterback looked back on his early years in the NFL and remembered the copious amounts of coaching tips.

“It’s a whirlwind, there’s a lot of expectations on you and you’re juggling a lot — you’re thinking about a million different things and you’re getting coached on a ton of stuff,” Smith said during Monday’s press conference.

Smith went on to admit that it wasn’t easy to take in all the info and translate it to the field.

“I think it’s hard as a young guy, sometimes it’s easy to become robotic out there,” Smith said. “You’ve got so much coaching going on out there and it’s hard on game day, at least it was hard for me sometimes just to flip back into playing.

“I was trying so hard on making my feet right and my fundamentals right that I was getting coached on, especially for me coming away from under center snap and all my footwork and things like that was so different for me having played in the gun most of my college career. It was hard sometimes to translate it.”

Luckily, Smith believes that Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs’ 2017 first-round selection, is doing a better job of absorbing coaching tips and converting it to on-field play than Smith did back in ’05.

“You have that coaching — go out and play on game day and cut it loose,” Smith said. “That took me a long time to get back into that mode whereas I think Pat is much better and way more fluid at that, being able to handle the coaching.”


Andy Reid on Patrick Mahomes starting this year: 'It's Alex's job'
Mahomes started his NFL career on a positive note, going 17-for-23 with 166 total yards and three touchdowns in two preseason games.

Smith attributes Mahomes’ beginning success to his ability to loosen up and play once he hits the field.

“Once the whistle blows out there, you want to just get back to playing quarterback and there are a lot of things that he does instinctively and has done that have gotten him here,” Smith said. “You don’t want to lose that.

“Even though you are getting coached on a gazillion different things you just want to get back to playing ball. I think he does a great job of that naturally, just cutting that loose and taking the coaching, but once it’s time to play, just go play.”
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Old 08-23-2017, 08:57 AM   #46
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2016: 16 TD's, 4 INT's in 12 games... with a terrible supporting cast... Colin Kaepernick.
Really only 11 games, one of the games he played one series and didn't pass. Sandy Mcgiblets confirmed there was no garbage time. Sandy puts all the 2nd half problems on one guy, but that's expected of her. There's no excuse for CK out playing Alex on that roster, doesn't matter how Mcgiblets tries to breakdown the numbers.
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Old 08-23-2017, 10:18 AM   #47
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I watched the SF games that didn't conflict with the KC ones.


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Old 08-23-2017, 11:05 AM   #48
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This has turned into a shitty Kape / Alex debate thread. Some people just love reliving that moment again and again and again...
It's like comparing a bag of shit to a box of shit.

We got a solid uncut piece of marble to mold into something beautiful, and we're talking about shit.
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:17 AM   #49
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I am still working on who your writing style resembles, I just hope you don't home school.

Allow me to me help you out;

You, Sandy and cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.


Should be:

You, Sandy, and Cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.

I could go further but I really see no reason to exert the energy.

I hope the other two parties chime in also....
I wouldn't be bitching about him not capitalizing your name, you didn't even do it yourself...
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:45 AM   #50
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IMHO Alex11 needs a little less efficiency and a lot more effectiveness and that's what coaches are working with him on. Some play makers are loose cannons and Alex11 is being trained to loosen his cannon up in able to be a "play maker" Alex11 needs to not let it get loose but to get it out and have some fun with it. I think Alex11 may be fun to watch this year!!!!!!

I have never said Alex11 has played the last few years as a solid dependable lackluster QB, but he has been exactly that: Boring yet a highly rated QBs in the NFL. Oh and a real playoff game appearance ( I don't count wild cards)

As I recall SF drafted him as a 1st round #1 overall pic.
If you look at his stats he never had 1 season in SF that was better than at KC
He only played an average of 10 games a season with only 2 16 game seasons out of 8.
In KC he averages 15 1\2 games a season for 4 years
His passing is yardage and ratings overall are higher than ever at SF and his INT % are lower.

KC got more than they expected as he has preformed better for us than at SF.

This year the Chiefs are hitting Alex!! with a double down approach. " Do what we want. open up the field, use your weapons, and make plays, and win games." and "Oh and by the way, meet PMll, he wants your job, badly!"

I personally think that Alex 11 is not only going to play better because of the new approach to his passing game but for the simple reason that he is fighting for the quality of the remainder of his career.

I think that this is our year to win a SB for the first time since 1969. If Alex brings us 6-12 more points every game we should at least get past where we have been in the last 47 years. Getting a chance to play for the AFC title.

IMHO Alex11 will fight to get us there and if need be, we have PMll to take over. When the season is over we better hope that our #10 overall pic learns all he can so when he does step up he plays up to the hype for the next 10-15 years. I will certainly say looking at Alex11's stats at SF they didn't get from Smith what they paid for. Let's hope PMll is a better deal.
Between you constantly referring to him as "Alex11", your shit grammar and your shitty opinions, your post is unreadable.
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:02 PM   #51
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This is why stats are always tricky. I watched the SF games that didn't conflict with the KC ones. Kaep was quite good in the first half of games I watched.. but was the polar opposite in the 2nd half of the games... and the team lost.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/split...lin-kaepernick

Scroll down the link mid-way to see the first half/second half stats I mention. He was inaccurate and ineffective in so many 2nd halves.. but the numbers won't reflect that as much since they get blurred into the whole of the games.

I don't hate Kaep at all. I never blamed him for the decisions of the coaching/FO. I think he evolved into quite an idiot from the once humble person he was. I don't typically care for backyard baller types that refuse to improve on their weaknesses. But I don't hate, resent, or think of Kaep at all. I actually feel a little bad for him. He got over-hyped early on.. let it get to his sponge-head, and easily fell victim to some strong influences surrounding him. When he started out, it was easy to see the natural talent. Great arm, very fast straight-line speed.. moxie.

He's not a terrible QB.. but he's not good enough to look beyond all the off-field crap that comes with him.. and it's easy to doubt that his football dedication will ever reach an acceptable level.
Colin Kaepernick:

1st Half: 11 TD's, 3 INT's

2nd Half: 5 TD's, 1 INT


Your Alex:

1st Half: 9 TD's, 4 INT's

2nd Half: 7 TD's, 5 INT's

http://www.nfl.com/player/alexsmith/...tuationalstats

(This doesn't add up with his 15-8 line, so I'm guessing this includes the playoff game). Point is, I'd take those 2nd Half numbers from Kaep over Alex any day of the week, especially since Kaep played in less games than Alex.

Try again, whistle-britches.
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:10 PM   #52
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From reports, Andy is hammering the pocket skills every play to Pat.
He knows Pat can play outside the structure of the offense. He's working on getting Pat to play structured ball from the pocket.

Calling plays, using correct technique, finding the mike LB, adapting to changes by the defense (zone, blitz, etc) and utilizing the playbook.This is the biggest reason Alex is the unquestioned starter right now, and it's all learned through experience.

Pat has grown so much since his first OTA practice in May 3 months ago. It would be ideal to give him another 3 months of practice before Andy even thinks about this kid being ready to play.
That's awesome awesome news. This is where I think his big development opportunity is. Biggest benefit being, reduce risk of injury.
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