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Old 04-07-2019, 04:23 PM  
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Ex Bronco running back thinks he deserves gold jacket

Jamaal Charles hasn’t officially retired from the NFL, but at age 32, and after playing just two games in 2018, it seems unlikely he’ll play again. If he’s done, he’ll be eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of 2024. He thinks he should get in.

“I mean, some of my numbers look way better than some people already in Canton,” Charles told TMZ.com.

One particular number is the reason Charles has a chance: He averaged 5.38 yards per carry over his career, the best for any running back in NFL history.

“That tells you what type of player I was,” Jamaal said. “I gave it my all. Every time I touched the ball, I averaged six yards a carry basically.”

Charles is, along with Jim Brown and Barry Sanders, one of just three players in NFL history to have five seasons with at least 1,000 rushing yards and 5.0 yards per carry. But Charles only had five good seasons in his career; in his other six seasons he never even reached 400 rushing yards. Five seasons will probably not be enough to get him in Canton, as spectacular as those five seasons were.

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Old 04-08-2019, 05:41 AM   #61
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The HOF has a lot of players that were great, but maybe not pure HOF material. And, sadly over the next 10 years, you'll see it become more watered down by players that had long careers and great numbers. Longevity should be a factor, but not the driving factor.

There are easily 15-20 inductees (players and other) that you could pull from the HOF now and start to reset expectations for greatness.
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:52 AM   #62
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I agree that he's in the Hall of Really Good and not the Hall of Fame. If he had found a way to get to 10,000 yards I think it's a no brainer. I just checked on his TDs because I wasn't sure where he ranked. 44 rushing TDs is tied for 97th all time. 65 total TDs is tied for 129th.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:00 AM   #63
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The HOF has a lot of players that were great, but maybe not pure HOF material. And, sadly over the next 10 years, you'll see it become more watered down by players that had long careers and great numbers. Longevity should be a factor, but not the driving factor.

There are easily 15-20 inductees (players and other) that you could pull from the HOF now and start to reset expectations for greatness.
Let's start with this guy.

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Old 04-08-2019, 06:02 AM   #64
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a 2000yd season and b2b SB rings. Like it or not, SB's carry A LOT of weight.
Longevity has to figure in as well. SB's are team accomplishments, not individual.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:36 AM   #65
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Handful of guys are well before my 'viewing/fan time'... I'll let the guys from that era that saw them live and can compare speak to them.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:37 AM   #66
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Fred Taylor, Edge, Steven Jackson... Gore, LeSean McCoy, Thomas Jones - are those guys HOF'ers? At some point, longevity and stats are nice but you need that extra and whether they got that extra in 5 years or 14, it's the extra that matters most.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:59 AM   #67
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Fred Taylor, Edge, Steven Jackson... Gore, LeSean McCoy, Thomas Jones - are those guys HOF'ers? At some point, longevity and stats are nice but you need that extra and whether they got that extra in 5 years or 14, it's the extra that matters most.
Steven Jackson doesn't belong in that group.

The rest are more deserving of the HOF than Terrell Davis, who just shouldn't be in.
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:35 AM   #68
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Steven Jackson doesn't belong in that group.

The rest are more deserving of the HOF than Terrell Davis, who just shouldn't be in.
Well, there are probably a half dozen guys like Davis that can be debated to death. Some played a dozen years and match what he accomplished, some didn't - across all positions. A guy like Troy Aikman comes to mind. Solid career and really achieved his greatness in a small 5 year window, while the other 7 seasons were under .500 overall and meh statistically. That's just one guy as an example.

As for Davis, some RBs play much longer and rack up good stats, but don't accomplish as much. So, the debate comes down to the player in spite of his team or because of his team and whether they are worthy.
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Old 04-08-2019, 08:56 AM   #69
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IMO the best running backs are the ones who keep drives alive and show up in the post season.

There's no doubt that Charles YPC is exceptional, but it's incredibly hard to get context on him because of the ultra-shitty teams he played with. His potential was limitless, but never saw full development.

JaMaal Charles is a prime example of why having shitty QB's is a dead end street.
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:23 AM   #70
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One of the worst HoF selections ever. I recognize that the Broncos were terrible then, but he had below average production even for his era. Jamaal Charles transcended his terrible teams, while Floyd Little just whined. The guy had one decent year in his entire career, and it was only decent, not great.
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:50 AM   #71
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The HOF has a lot of players that were great, but maybe not pure HOF material. And, sadly over the next 10 years, you'll see it become more watered down by players that had long careers and great numbers. Longevity should be a factor, but not the driving factor.

There are easily 15-20 inductees (players and other) that you could pull from the HOF now and start to reset expectations for greatness.
Absolutely, let's start with Terrell Davis and Jerome Bettis.

Moral of the story, work for the NFL Network or ESPN, and you're in!
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:57 PM   #72
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Well to be fair we were all Casseled...Jamaal is just paying more than the rest of us. I think....lord I hated Cassel.
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The way the NFL allows players to get into the HOF is a disgrace to players who do not handle the football.You can not allow a team to run block,pass block, do all the dirty to allow a RB to run through massive holes, or QB's to have all day to pass. Linemen have to be held into a different grading scale than some sportswriter laboring for a person. There is only so many spots per year foe a player to be honored for their accomplishments.

Floyd Little is one of the ultimate head scratchers ever.
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The HOF has a lot of players that were great, but maybe not pure HOF material. And, sadly over the next 10 years, you'll see it become more watered down by players that had long careers and great numbers. Longevity should be a factor, but not the driving factor.

There are easily 15-20 inductees (players and other) that you could pull from the HOF now and start to reset expectations for greatness.
People like Jerome Bettis, Terrell Davis, Jamaal Charles, should not be in the Hall. They are not in the top tier of players in history at their position.

It's getting way too watered down for the sake of inducting new players all the time.
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