Bieniemy definitely gone after this year

[RunKC]

Enjoy him while you can. Sirius radio made mention that 3 teams are already researching him.

Gonna guess that’s the Jets, Lions and Bengals.

Chiefs OC getting his respect 💯

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— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) October 4, 2020

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yup. Easterby has to go. EB needs to have a GM he can work with, not some character building crony.

And even then it's going to be a rough first couple of years.

That job is fool's gold.

You get Watson, which is alluring as ****, but you also get the mess that is the rest of that team too.

Truth. They're capped the **** out with no picks or good young players aside from the QB. Their best path to fixing that would be to trade franchise icon JJ Watt for a 1st+ but who knows if they'd actually do it.

EB should go for Detroit (decent talent on both sides and an owner that doesn't fire too often) or Jacksonville (tons of picks and cap room). Id also consider Atlanta since the owner is open to trading those pricey vets and will likely give you time to work.

All of these teams will be in striking distance of Lawrence or at least can grab Fields or the other kid from N Dakota St.

[Red Dawg]

Chargers should can Lynn and hire EB. That would be a smart move.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by mkp785

Truth. They're capped the **** out with no picks or good young players aside from the QB. Their best path to fixing that would be to trade franchise icon JJ Watt for a 1st+ but who knows if they'd actually do it.

EB should go for Detroit (decent talent on both sides and an owner that doesn't fire too often) or Jacksonville (tons of picks and cap room). Id also consider Atlanta since the owner is open to trading those pricey vets and will likely give you time to work.

All of these teams will be in striking distance of Lawrence or at least can grab Fields or the other kid from N Dakota St.

JJ Watt isn't going to fetch a 1st rounder. At this point, he might not even fetch a 3rd.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mkp785

Truth. They're capped the **** out with no picks or good young players aside from the QB. Their best path to fixing that would be to trade franchise icon JJ Watt for a 1st+ but who knows if they'd actually do it.

EB should go for Detroit (decent talent on both sides and an owner that doesn't fire too often) or Jacksonville (tons of picks and cap room). Id also consider Atlanta since the owner is open to trading those pricey vets and will likely give you time to work.

All of these teams will be in striking distance of Lawrence or at least can grab Fields or the other kid from N Dakota St.

I don't know why anyone would want to go to Detroit. Their owners don't give a single shit about the team. And as long as they have a bellichick stooge at GM their short list will be McDaniels, daboll, maybe bellichicks aunt.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know why anyone would want to go to Detroit. Their owners don't give a single shit about the team. And as long as they have a bellichick stooge at GM their short list will be McDaniels, daboll, maybe bellichicks aunt.

They give their coaches a long lease before they get canned though. What's more important than job security? They also will write checks as they paid Flowers and pretty much whoever else Patricia has wanted. Hopefully, they've learned their lesson with Belicheat scrubs, but yes someone will hire Daboll and McDouche. EB is a much better choice then either one of those guys, plus it puts him in the NFC so can actually root for him to succeed unlike if he gets hired by Houston or the Jets/Chargers

Ultimately, what EB should is wait and see who lands in the top 5 of the draft and go from there.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

JJ Watt isn't going to fetch a 1st rounder. At this point, he might not even fetch a 3rd.

I was thinking that. His contract is huge and he is like 30 so it depends. 1st might be too much but a 2nd seems reasonable if he stays healthy this year and regains his old form.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Where does this idea come from that EB is some amazing coach? I still put most of the offensive success and genius on Reid. Pederson left and got a SB, but I wouldn't exactly call him a top notch NFL coach. Nagy has been pretty meh. Why is the NFL consensus that Bienemy is this can't miss head coach? He still plays second fiddle to Reid.

I agree and disagree. The problem is that the NFL talking heads have been pushing the narrative that EB is responsible for calling the plays and go as far as saying things like, “great play design by Eric Bienemy.” We all know that’s kinda bullshit and they are doing it because they think that is what will get him a job.

But what I find more disappointing is that they are burying the lead. EB is a natural born leader of men. He’s a taskmaster and disciplinarian who inspires loyalty and gets the best out of his players. He was born to be a head coach, IMO.

No doubt he has benefitted from being OC in Reid’s system, which will get him a job. But the personal traits he brings to the table will be why he succeeds. The bonus for any team considering him is that he is coming from the Reid coaching tree, which is far more accomplished than any other. Andy is a teacher of coaches as much as he is players.

[TribalElder]

The Herd just mentioned that

All the KC coaches get head jobs



I laughed a bit at that

[Peter Gibbons]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

The Herd just mentioned that

All the KC coaches get head jobs



I laughed a bit at that

I am busy composing an email asking Andy any position with the title “coach”.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

The Herd just mentioned that

All the KC coaches get head jobs



I laughed a bit at that

Nah

EB is gone. I think Atlanta is the perfect situation for him, but think Detroit or Houston also work.

Other guys who will get jobs will be Brian Daboll (Bills OC) and Arthur Smith (Titans OC).

Mike Kafka is the only coach in KC that would concern me leaving, but the dude is only 33 and I think he would want and need to have the experience of being the OC for a Mahomes led team before jumping into the deep end.

Thankful that Spags has already had two shots at being a HC, and while House and Daly are super talented, I think they're overshadowed a bit by the Chiefs offense, so hopefully we can hold on to them for a few more years. Plus defensive coaches are not really a hot trend any more.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Chargers should can Lynn and hire EB. That would be a smart move.

Doubtful. I’ll bet Lynn gets another year. He’s a good coach and the Chargers are playing decent. Plus they are competitive with a rookie QB.

[Buehler445]

Lots of good discussion in this thread.

I’d agree that a lot of the jobs available are ass. With Houston being the ass-eist of all the ass. That being said, good teams don’t have vacancies. What are the ones that have? Chin leaving Pitt? Maybe Dungy getting canned because he’s a quieter Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards? Tuna retiring from the Cowbitches?

The list is short.

If I were Bienemy I’d demand input on the GM. And for those shit franchises in cap hell I am demanding a 10 year contract tract.

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here's the thing apparently Brian Daboll and Matt Eberflus are going to be hot candidates for HC jobs...that seems underwhelming.

Remember when Daboll was here after Weis? Barf. I wouldn’t hire him on that alone. Mother****er that was bad.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It's unclear what Gase has ever accomplished in the NFL to deserve the supposed "offensive genius"/"QB guru" reputation.

Serving as Manning's glorified personal assistant in Denver doesn't count.

Before Tannehill went to Tennessee, Gase got more out of him than whatever sister****er was Down there before. He is still an epic ****lehead, but I remember the chatter when he got picked up that he did better with Tannehill.

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

From what I perceive, you act as if Reid took over a complete dumpster fire devoid of talent (which wasn’t the case) and that he was handcuffed to a QB.

Reid took over a team that had talent on it, but had an egomaniac of a GM who insisted on shoving Cassel down his coaches throats and refused to have any QB compete against him. I also don’t know what it’s like for a HC to take over after a player committed suicide and homicide like 5 weeks before under a previous regime, but I can imagine that was not an easy situation for a HC to come to and acknowledge that that part of Reid’s first season in KC must have been infinitely harder than anything Pederson has had to deal with.

Anyways, Reid also took over a team with the #1 pick, in which he could have take any QB, but hand picked Alex to be his first QB in KC (using hindsight, I think not taking a QB at 1 ended up being the right move. Depending on how one views Smith and his time in KC, it could be argued he was the right QB at the time for KC). When it was time, the franchise moved on.

Like any HC, they can only do so much with what they’re given. The Eagles “decline” is mostly tied down to Wentz’s health and Roseman not properly replacing talent.

All 4 of Pederson’s PO wins have been with a backup QB, and another PO game had McCown play a large part of the game. I don’t know how playing a backup QB due to injury in 3 postseasons isn’t facing adversity.

Uhhh. Wut.

There was something reeruned like 6 or 8 dudes that could play when Reid took over. Granted a couple were really good, but that team was a steaming hot manure pile. Seriously. Look at that roster. Most of the dudes that got cut never played another down. Dorsey (whether you like him or not) and his staff did an all time job un****ing that roster. And our cap was shit the next year on account of it.

Reid and company earned their money after a decade in the doldrums Helmed by Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli.

[Faceman]

The only reason the Cap will be an issues for the Texans is the Covid-19 revenue hit and cap reduction. Normal Cap, no real issues. But that is most of the NFL.

I don't think y'all pay attention to the Texans. Texans don't have a bunch bad contracts. Much of the money is not guaranteed after this year. Cooks has none, David Johnson can be cut. LB McKinney will probably be traded. By 2022 draft, the Texans are in great shape contract-wise and have all their draft choices. There is talent on the Texans now, they just need someone that is NOT Bill O'Brien.

Eric Bieniemy is the #1 choice of the fans. We will see who the GM will be.

Easterby is a placeholder. Whoever the GM that is hired, will have all the power. Easterby may be let go after season or he will go back to his VP position....non-on field football affairs....or whatever.

[htismaqe]

No mention of Tunsil's contract.

And Jack Easterby won't get in the way - he'll go back to being Vice President of Football Operations.