Chiefs Could we improve our 12th man at Arrowhead?

DRU · 09-21-2010, 01:31 PM

Arrowhead is loud and a fun, crazy place when it's full. In that atmoshphere we're known for having the best "12th man" in the NFL. We know it and we love it, however, I'd like to throw this against the wall and see if it sticks...I think we've got room for improvement.

We don't get loud...really loud...until the opposing team breaks their huddle and begins walking up to the line of scrimmage. By that time everybody knows the play, all they have to do is watch the ball or the snap or make sure they're paying attention to their silent cound signals, etc. Of course, this doesn't always work and we've seen many crowd causing problems (see opening MNF game) that benefited the Chiefs greatly.

Imagine if we could get that level of noise going while the opposing offense is in their huddle, or even better, slightly before they huddle up. If that peak level of noise could be achieved at that time and through-out their play, they'd have some serious problems. Half their guys wouldn't even be able to hear the play, the other half would think they heard it, they'd end up wasting timeouts and would be a confused mess before they even made it to the line of scrimmage. Imagine the benefit to our defense!!

What do you guys think? Should we spread the word and try to make that place rock before the offense is even ready to go? Any chance of actually spreading this idea and making it happen at Arrowhead?? With enough practice it might even effect guys like Peyton Manning who obviously is not effected by our crowd noise and has shown that plenty of times. But if the guys couldn't even hear the plays he's calling...well that could be another story.

Just something I've been kicking around in my head for a while now and even mentioned it in another thread recently (but I forgot which one and can't find it to see if anybody noticed it). thoughts?

Hug it Out Dan · 09-21-2010, 01:43 PM

To simply answer your long thought out opening post....

If the Chiefs brass got rid of the Gold section and replaced it w/ reg fan seating and not expensive executive type suites, then yes Arrowhead "could" get louder.

Those ****ers don't go to the stadium for the experience, they go there to make a statement "hey i've got $$$". They don't stand up and yell when opposing offenses are out on the field, they show up a few min into the 1st qtr, show up after halftime about 5 min into the 3rd qtr and they leave the game early. If you're not gonna go for the fan experience and act as "one" trying to help our team win, then why bother going?

Deberg_1990 · 09-21-2010, 01:46 PM

Hopefully the Chiefs can get to a point where they are good enough to win games without having to rely on "the 12th man".

**mlyonsd** · 09-21-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan

To simply answer your long thought out opening post....

If the Chiefs brass got rid of the Gold section and replaced it w/ reg fan seating and not expensive executive type suites, then yes Arrowhead "could" get louder.

Those ****ers don't go to the stadium for the experience, they go there to make a statement "hey i've got $$$". They don't stand up and yell when opposing offenses are out on the field, they show up a few min into the 1st qtr, show up after halftime about 5 min into the 3rd qtr and they leave the game early. If you're not gonna go for the fan experience and act as "one" trying to help our team win, then why bother going?

On the drive home after the game on Tuesday the guy that has Grunhard on his show made this very point. He said when Arrowhead first opened Gold seating was affordable to the average fan. He says now it's changed so the elite sit there and a lot of them spend their time up at the bar.

Warrior5 · 09-21-2010, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan

To simply answer your long thought out opening post....

If the Chiefs brass got rid of the Gold section and replaced it w/ reg fan seating and not expensive executive type suites, then yes Arrowhead "could" get louder.

Those ****ers don't go to the stadium for the experience, they go there to make a statement "hey i've got $$$". They don't stand up and yell when opposing offenses are out on the field, they show up a few min into the 1st qtr, show up after halftime about 5 min into the 3rd qtr and they leave the game early. If you're not gonna go for the fan experience and act as "one" trying to help our team win, then why bother going?

This eleventy billion times.

Hug it Out Dan · 09-21-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

On the drive home after the game on Tuesday the guy that has Grunhard on his show made this very point. He said when Arrowhead first opened Gold seating was affordable to the average fan. He says now it's changed so the elite sit there and a lot of them spend their time up at the bar.

right....which is exactly why Arrowhead was louder back in the early mid 90's than it is now.

Arrowhead was loud during the DV era at times, but still didn't have anywhere near the effect it did back when we had DT, Neil Smith, Carter Hasty etc.

**Donger** · 09-21-2010, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan

To simply answer your long thought out opening post....

If the Chiefs brass got rid of the Gold section and replaced it w/ reg fan seating and not expensive executive type suites, then yes Arrowhead "could" get louder.

Those ****ers don't go to the stadium for the experience, they go there to make a statement "hey i've got $$$". They don't stand up and yell when opposing offenses are out on the field, they show up a few min into the 1st qtr, show up after halftime about 5 min into the 3rd qtr and they leave the game early. If you're not gonna go for the fan experience and act as "one" trying to help our team win, then why bother going?

Sounds like my kind of seating.

DRU · 09-21-2010, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laces Out Dan

To simply answer your long thought out opening post....

If the Chiefs brass got rid of the Gold section and replaced it w/ reg fan seating and not expensive executive type suites, then yes Arrowhead "could" get louder.

Those ****ers don't go to the stadium for the experience, they go there to make a statement "hey i've got $$$". They don't stand up and yell when opposing offenses are out on the field, they show up a few min into the 1st qtr, show up after halftime about 5 min into the 3rd qtr and they leave the game early. If you're not gonna go for the fan experience and act as "one" trying to help our team win, then why bother going?

I guess it was kind of long, which is apparently why you didn't read it. I'm not talking about how loud it gets. I'm talking about when it gets loud.

DRU · 09-21-2010, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

On the drive home after the game on Tuesday the guy that has Grunhard on his show made this very point. He said when Arrowhead first opened Gold seating was affordable to the average fan. He says now it's changed so the elite sit there and a lot of them spend their time up at the bar.

I do agree with this point, but again, even at the levels we're achieving now the time at which we reach our peak is what I'm talking about.

Nirvana58 · 09-21-2010, 02:01 PM

Well good idea..... But then our defensive players wont be able to hear their play either.

DRU · 09-21-2010, 02:02 PM

Apparently my original post was too long.

We don't get loud until the offense is already up at the line of scrimmage. Not our LOUDEST anyway. If we could do this while the offense is in their huddle, or even a little before they huddle up, even at our current levels of noise I think it would make a dramatic difference.

Of course, making seats affordable so it's louder overall is always good, too, but that's not what I meant to refer to here.

DRU · 09-21-2010, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Well good idea..... But then our defensive players wont be able to hear their play either.

I bet they'd deal with it a lot better than an offense would.

joesomebody · 09-21-2010, 02:04 PM

I suggest we have someone stand in a red bikini by the new Lamar Hunt statue and hand out 78,000 flyers explaining this very strategy. I'd suggest the George Brett Statue, but it's been moved.

DRU · 09-21-2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joesomebody

I suggest we have someone stand in a red bikini by the new Lamar Hunt statue and hand out 78,000 flyers explaining this very strategy. I'd suggest the George Brett Statue, but it's been moved.

That's what I'm talking about!

**Bugeater** · 09-21-2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joesomebody

I suggest we have someone stand in a red bikini by the new Lamar Hunt statue and hand out 78,000 flyers explaining this very strategy. I'd suggest the George Brett Statue, but it's been moved.

THUNDERSTICKS FTW!!11

09-21-2010, 01:31 PM
DRU To the Game Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $6793516	Could we improve our 12th man at Arrowhead? Arrowhead is loud and a fun, crazy place when it's full. In that atmoshphere we're known for having the best "12th man" in the NFL. We know it and we love it, however, I'd like to throw this against the wall and see if it sticks...I think we've got room for improvement. We don't get loud...really loud...until the opposing team breaks their huddle and begins walking up to the line of scrimmage. By that time everybody knows the play, all they have to do is watch the ball or the snap or make sure they're paying attention to their silent cound signals, etc. Of course, this doesn't always work and we've seen many crowd causing problems (see opening MNF game) that benefited the Chiefs greatly. Imagine if we could get that level of noise going while the opposing offense is in their huddle, or even better, slightly before they huddle up. If that peak level of noise could be achieved at that time and through-out their play, they'd have some serious problems. Half their guys wouldn't even be able to hear the play, the other half would think they heard it, they'd end up wasting timeouts and would be a confused mess before they even made it to the line of scrimmage. Imagine the benefit to our defense!! What do you guys think? Should we spread the word and try to make that place rock before the offense is even ready to go? Any chance of actually spreading this idea and making it happen at Arrowhead?? With enough practice it might even effect guys like Peyton Manning who obviously is not effected by our crowd noise and has shown that plenty of times. But if the guys couldn't even hear the plays he's calling...well that could be another story. Just something I've been kicking around in my head for a while now and even mentioned it in another thread recently (but I forgot which one and can't find it to see if anybody noticed it). thoughts?
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09-21-2010, 01:43 PM	#2
Hug it Out Dan Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	To simply answer your long thought out opening post.... If the Chiefs brass got rid of the Gold section and replaced it w/ reg fan seating and not expensive executive type suites, then yes Arrowhead "could" get louder. Those ****ers don't go to the stadium for the experience, they go there to make a statement "hey i've got $$$". They don't stand up and yell when opposing offenses are out on the field, they show up a few min into the 1st qtr, show up after halftime about 5 min into the 3rd qtr and they leave the game early. If you're not gonna go for the fan experience and act as "one" trying to help our team win, then why bother going?
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09-21-2010, 01:46 PM	#3
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $134454	Hopefully the Chiefs can get to a point where they are good enough to win games without having to rely on "the 12th man".
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09-21-2010, 02:01 PM	#10
Nirvana58 Veteran Join Date: May 2010 Casino cash: $2775985	Well good idea..... But then our defensive players wont be able to hear their play either.
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09-21-2010, 02:02 PM	#11
DRU To the Game Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $6793516	Apparently my original post was too long. We don't get loud until the offense is already up at the line of scrimmage. Not our LOUDEST anyway. If we could do this while the offense is in their huddle, or even a little before they huddle up, even at our current levels of noise I think it would make a dramatic difference. Of course, making seats affordable so it's louder overall is always good, too, but that's not what I meant to refer to here.
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09-21-2010, 02:04 PM	#13
joesomebody Waiting to be voted off Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Casino cash: $9994900	I suggest we have someone stand in a red bikini by the new Lamar Hunt statue and hand out 78,000 flyers explaining this very strategy. I'd suggest the George Brett Statue, but it's been moved.
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