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Old 04-22-2008, 02:39 PM   Topic Starter
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Interesting rumor out of STL....(Matt Ryan)
If the Falcons are able to land Glenn Dorsey with the 3rd overall pick, they would pick up the phone and call the Patriots if Matt Ryan was available at 7 and offer all three of their 2008 2nd round picks. (34/37/48)

The value chart shows the Falcons package to be worth 1510 on the chart, while the 7th overall pick is worth 1500.

Interesting, to say the least.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:42 PM   #2
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Not surprised, If that scenario breaks out and the Chiefs reached for an OT and passed on Ryan it will not be pretty.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:52 PM   #3
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Not surprised, If that scenario breaks out and the Chiefs reached for an OT and passed on Ryan it will not be pretty.
What does "it will not be pretty" mean?. You've been arrogantly dismissing those who wanted OT over DL or Ryan for months - saying they don't understand the draft. Well, Bill Parcells knows a hell of a lot more about the draft than me or you and he just picked Long. I personally have become very high on Ryan and want to see him a Chief, but Branden Albert or Ryan Clady may be the next Willie Roaf - who knows?
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:56 PM   #4
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What does "it will not be pretty" mean?. You've been arrogantly dismissing those who wanted OT over DL or Ryan for months - saying they don't understand the draft. Well, Bill Parcells knows a hell of a lot more about the draft than me or you and he just picked Long. I personally have become very high on Ryan and want to see him a Chief, but Branden Albert or Ryan Clady may be the next Willie Roaf - who knows?
Want a quick bit of news?

Bill Parcells is not the end all be all of drafting this man used 1st round pick on Bobby Carpenter.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:09 PM   #5
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Want a quick bit of news?

Bill Parcells is not the end all be all of drafting this man used 1st round pick on Bobby Carpenter.
Oh that's right - you are the end all be all. Better than Parcells. Glad I got that straight.

I think you are too obsessed with rules - teams in situation X cannot trade down, position Y can't be drafted top 10, etc. etc. These rules are bad attempts to make complex, highly variable decisions simple - and I can find historical cases where each of them fail. I understand your schtick, but my suggestion is that you open your mind and embrace the complexity. It will humble you when you realize things aren't as simple as you think.

And no one's got a perfect record. Your beloved AJ Smith took Sammy Davis in the first round. And his last 1st round pick in Buffalo (with Jerry Butler) was Erik Flowers.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:43 PM   #6
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Jesus, the Patriots would be all over that.

Only team in the way of that would be us. If it plays out as I think it will, we're going to choose between Ryan and Ellis.

What if the Falcons called us up and offered at least two of their second rounders and their 1st in 2009, assuming we already had the first from the Vikings?

We could do this all day...
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:44 PM   #7
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Jesus, the Patriots would be all over that.

Only team in the way of that would be us. If it plays out as I think it will, we're going to choose between Ryan and Ellis.

What if the Falcons called us up and offered at least two of their second rounders and their 1st in 2009, assuming we already had the first from the Vikings?

We could do this all day...
You don't do that as the Chiefs, the Pats can consider it because with their already built core 3 good players can mean more to them than 1 great one..

The Chiefs still needing to build that core can not to a deal like that.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:54 PM   #8
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You don't do that as the Chiefs, the Pats can consider it because with their already built core 3 good players can mean more to them than 1 great one..

The Chiefs still needing to build that core can not to a deal like that.
I understand where you're coming from, but remember how San Diego built their core? 11 picks in 2004.

Five picks in the first two rounds could be huge. 7 picks in the first three rounds.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:50 PM   #9
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Jesus, the Patriots would be all over that.

Only team in the way of that would be us. If it plays out as I think it will, we're going to choose between Ryan and Ellis.

What if the Falcons called us up and offered at least two of their second rounders and their 1st in 2009, assuming we already had the first from the Vikings?

We could do this all day...
I'm gonna be in the minority here, and it's gonna come as a bit of a surprise considering I hate the idea of trading down, but depending on who we have to pick from...

If we had the 17th from Minnesota, I'd probably take the same offer, even though it's 190 points short on the value chart. Maybe ask for a 2009 2nd rounder or something, but if they balked, I'd take the 3 in the 2nd.

So we'd have picks at:

17
34
35
37
48
66
73
105
136
140
170
187
210
239


14 picks......if used correctly.....a damn great start to a rebuilt franchise.
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:43 PM   #10
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Why the hell does everyone call the Patriots when they need something?



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we're going to have a huge bidding war if Ryan is there at #5...
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You also just jacked all chance of getting a legit QB and next years QB class is awful...
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You also just jacked all chance of getting a legit QB and next years QB class is awful...
I know you have a raging hard-on for Ryan, but to say we couldn't get a QB with those extra picks is insane.

You're going against your own beliefs. Don't pick for need.
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I know you have a raging hard-on for Ryan, but to say we couldn't get a QB with those extra picks is insane.

You're going against your own beliefs. Don't pick for need.
Yea we'll get Chad Henne just what I want...
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I'd personally rather have Sedrick Ellis than to do this.
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