Chiefs Another reason I think Clark was smart to hire Pioli...

htismaqe · 04-25-2009, 05:59 AM

We're relevant again.

The Cassel trade. The "name" head coach. Probably Pioli himself. It seems like everybody wants to talk about the team.

The NFL Network is providing live reports from 5 teams. 2 of them are Dallas and Denver - of course.

And we're one of them as well.

LaChapelle · 04-25-2009, 06:22 AM

The MF'in prick is no longer the GM, he's the head coach.

RedThat · 04-25-2009, 06:23 AM

Main reason is because he did it the right way, hire someone with experience from a winning organization.

milkman · 04-25-2009, 06:24 AM

At the end of the day, the only thing I care about is whether the Chiefs can build a team that can compete to play, and win, SBs.

I would still have preferred Eric DeCosta.

Otter · 04-25-2009, 06:30 AM

Pioli hawking over the O-Line in practice and being more worried about business given what he inherited than catering to the media is a God sent.

I'm happy to be a Chiefs fan, this new crew is how otter would be handling things if he were in charge.

I know, I know...

I like 'em, I like 'em a lot and our owner is the guy who made it happen. The guy at the top just set the measuring stick for who he wants under him.

No friends bullshit, no more being more worried about who's gonna kiss your ass and placate your ego and tell you "it's not your fault Carl". This is how things should be run and if it's not the 100% formula for success it's a ****ing step in the right direction. 'Yes men' are for losers, you need people who tell you what your weaknesses are and help you compensate for them.

Keep friends and business separate.

**** YOU CARL!!!!

I still can't believe it's going this way after all these years.

/thank you for the opportunity to rant

htismaqe · 04-25-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

At the end of the day, the only thing I care about is whether the Chiefs can build a team that can compete to play, and win, SBs.

I would still have preferred Eric DeCosta.

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

But still, the Chiefs, from a PR and ECONOMIC standpoint, have been in a steady, downward spiral for a decade.

It's Pioli's job to make the football team successful. It's Clark's job to make the FRANCHISE successful, and it looks to me like he's hit a walk-off homerun with this one...

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-25-2009, 06:42 AM

I never would have thought we'd stoop low enough to hire a DC from a Cardinals team that was fired. That's my only question mark. that and trading Gonzolez with 3 more probowl years ahead of him. I know he's at the end of his career, but so is Vrabel.

Other than that its all good.

milkman · 04-25-2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

But still, the Chiefs, from a PR and ECONOMIC standpoint, have been in a steady, downward spiral for a decade.

It's Pioli's job to make the football team successful. It's Clark's job to make the FRANCHISE successful, and it looks to me like he's hit a walk-off homerun with this one...

I don't think they are mutually exclusive either.

I just liked the Ravens overall approach to building their team.

I also like the Steelers approach better.

And the thing is, how successful would that Patriot team be if they hadn't gotten lucky with a 6th round pick that they had to be talked into taking?

EyePod · 04-25-2009, 07:01 AM

I have been talking about this for a while:

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Also, I really think that Pioli has done some of the moves just to get the Chiefs in the news and on people's minds. It's ridiculous that we don't have any prime time games, and I think Pioli is trying to change that. I mean, the ****ing Lions have the Thanksgiving game, and we won INFINITY % more games than then.

I mean, my friend just told me the other day that the Chiefs are his sleeper pick to surprise people. Everyone believes we're gonna be the next Falcons or Dolphins. It's sweet.

EyePod · 04-25-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't think they are mutually exclusive either.

I just liked the Ravens overall approach to building their team.

I also like the Steelers approach better.

And the thing is, how successful would that Patriot team be if they hadn't gotten lucky with a 6th round pick that they had to be talked into taking?

Is that luck or actual draft preparation and GREAT coaching. I mean, Brady went there when a lot of great coaches were there, ones who are all HC's now, and he had Drew Bledsoe to help him out. Plus, the Patriots seemed to have a lot better idea of what they wanted on draft day than the Chiefs.

tmax63 · 04-25-2009, 07:06 AM

Gonzo didn't want to be here plain and simple. His is the only Chiefs jersey I own but I understand that fact. It's too bad but as the new regime said, you gotta want to be a Chief to be here not just a good football player. He's got a couple of good years left but you could see some decline in skills. The new attitude in KC could come closer to making them a better team than anyone they pick today. Time will tell. Ability, attitude, and knowledge. Last year they had none of the above. New GM and some new coaches hopefully fix the knowledge. The new head coach is fixing the attitude. Ability takes longer but with 2 out of 3 you win more than 2 games. We have a bunch of youngsters already that might turn out pretty good, and regardless of what some say, the difference between the best and the worst player in the NFL isn't that big. You have to have the tools to get there period. It's more between the ears than it is 40 times or reps on the bench and if Haley and Pioli can get the player's heads on straight and on football and get rid of the few that they can't then they're off to a promising start.

htismaqe · 04-25-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

I never would have thought we'd stoop low enough to hire a DC from a Cardinals team that was fired. That's my only question mark. that and trading Gonzolez with 3 more probowl years ahead of him. I know he's at the end of his career, but so is Vrabel.

Other than that its all good.

Vrabel has 3 rings, Tony has none.

And no, that's not a knock on Tony. It's just a simple fact that he can't teach young players how to be winners, because he himself hasn't been one.

htismaqe · 04-25-2009, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

I don't think they are mutually exclusive either.

I just liked the Ravens overall approach to building their team.

I also like the Steelers approach better.

And the thing is, how successful would that Patriot team be if they hadn't gotten lucky with a 6th round pick that they had to be talked into taking?

There's more to the Brady saga than just luck. That's crazy talk.

Fat Elvis · 04-25-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's more to the Brady saga than just luck. That's crazy talk.

Tell that to his rabbits foot.

milkman · 04-25-2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Is that luck or actual draft preparation and GREAT coaching. I mean, Brady went there when a lot of great coaches were there, ones who are all HC's now, and he had Drew Bledsoe to help him out. Plus, the Patriots seemed to have a lot better idea of what they wanted on draft day than the Chiefs.

If you don't already have the tools to succeed, then no amount of coaching and mentoring is going to turn you into the best QB in the league.

And it's pretty well documented that the Pats QB coach had to talk BB and SP into taking Brady over Tim Rattay with that pick.

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