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Old 04-25-2009, 06:24 AM   #1
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At the end of the day, the only thing I care about is whether the Chiefs can build a team that can compete to play, and win, SBs.

I would still have preferred Eric DeCosta.
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:30 AM   #2
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At the end of the day, the only thing I care about is whether the Chiefs can build a team that can compete to play, and win, SBs.

I would still have preferred Eric DeCosta.
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

But still, the Chiefs, from a PR and ECONOMIC standpoint, have been in a steady, downward spiral for a decade.

It's Pioli's job to make the football team successful. It's Clark's job to make the FRANCHISE successful, and it looks to me like he's hit a walk-off homerun with this one...
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:54 AM   #3
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I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

But still, the Chiefs, from a PR and ECONOMIC standpoint, have been in a steady, downward spiral for a decade.

It's Pioli's job to make the football team successful. It's Clark's job to make the FRANCHISE successful, and it looks to me like he's hit a walk-off homerun with this one...
I don't think they are mutually exclusive either.

I just liked the Ravens overall approach to building their team.

I also like the Steelers approach better.

And the thing is, how successful would that Patriot team be if they hadn't gotten lucky with a 6th round pick that they had to be talked into taking?
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:03 AM   #4
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I don't think they are mutually exclusive either.

I just liked the Ravens overall approach to building their team.

I also like the Steelers approach better.

And the thing is, how successful would that Patriot team be if they hadn't gotten lucky with a 6th round pick that they had to be talked into taking?
Is that luck or actual draft preparation and GREAT coaching. I mean, Brady went there when a lot of great coaches were there, ones who are all HC's now, and he had Drew Bledsoe to help him out. Plus, the Patriots seemed to have a lot better idea of what they wanted on draft day than the Chiefs.
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Is that luck or actual draft preparation and GREAT coaching. I mean, Brady went there when a lot of great coaches were there, ones who are all HC's now, and he had Drew Bledsoe to help him out. Plus, the Patriots seemed to have a lot better idea of what they wanted on draft day than the Chiefs.
If you don't already have the tools to succeed, then no amount of coaching and mentoring is going to turn you into the best QB in the league.

And it's pretty well documented that the Pats QB coach had to talk BB and SP into taking Brady over Tim Rattay with that pick.
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:22 AM   #6
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If you don't already have the tools to succeed, then no amount of coaching and mentoring is going to turn you into the best QB in the league.

And it's pretty well documented that the Pats QB coach had to talk BB and SP into taking Brady over Tim Rattay with that pick.
I think anyone could have been amazing with that team. I still don't think Brady is that special.
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I think anyone could have been amazing with that team. I still don't think Brady is that special.
Really?

Antwain Smith and a washed up Cory Dillon at RB.

Deion Branch and Troy Brown at reciever.

He won two SBs with marginal talent, and you think anyone could have been amazing?

No offense, but that is just ****ing stupid.
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I think anyone could have been amazing with that team. I still don't think Brady is that special.
I think Brady showed his worth to that team last season.
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I think anyone could have been amazing with that team. I still don't think Brady is that special.
It was amazing how the same exact offensive line looked like absolute shit when Brady was out. Why? Because Brady is so lightning quick with his reads and he is better than anybody at spotting a blitz. QBs like Brees and Brady make their offensive lines so much better. And because Brady is arguably the best in the league at pocket awareness. It's these little things. Brady is excellent at almost every facet of the game, especially the things people pay little attention to.
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Still drunk from last night, then, huh?
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I don't think they are mutually exclusive either.

I just liked the Ravens overall approach to building their team.

I also like the Steelers approach better.

And the thing is, how successful would that Patriot team be if they hadn't gotten lucky with a 6th round pick that they had to be talked into taking?
There's more to the Brady saga than just luck. That's crazy talk.
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There's more to the Brady saga than just luck. That's crazy talk.
Tell that to his rabbits foot.
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There's more to the Brady saga than just luck. That's crazy talk.
Can you expand on that?
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