Books Kokonis fired, Mangini stays

Brock · 11-02-2009, 08:46 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312

What sense does it make to fire your brand new GM and keep the coach who's really picking the talent?

Brock · 11-02-2009, 08:46 PM

Sorry didn't see the earlier thread.

chiefscafan · 11-02-2009, 08:50 PM

Called a scape goat

kcxiv · 11-02-2009, 08:53 PM

Its just to buy the owner more time. Mangini is as good as gone as well. I dont think they want to fire both at the same time

Chiefnj2 · 11-02-2009, 08:55 PM

Why the hell do you fire the GM halfway through the season? What decisions is he making right now that are affecting the play on Sundays?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why the hell do you fire the GM halfway through the season? What decisions is he making right now that are affecting the play on Sundays?

Because you don't want him around evaluating college personnel and making draft decisions.

Something that Pioli somehow gets a pass for because he was in Siberia last year.

Oops, I mean New England.

bluehawkdoc · 11-02-2009, 09:27 PM

Mangini must have slept with the GM or has pictures of him in compromising positions with sheep. These are the only 2 logical scenarios.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-02-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because you don't want him around evaluating college personnel and making draft decisions.

Something that Pioli somehow gets a pass for because he was in Siberia last year.

Oops, I mean New England.

This is getting ridiculous already. So one franchise makes an insanely dumb decision to hire a guy who worked for a pretty successful organization mid-year, we should to?

You really want to mimic the Browns decisions? Really? They hire Eric Mangini and give him full control, which is the worst decision in all of football.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This is getting ridiculous already. So one franchise makes an insanely dumb decision to hire a guy who worked for a pretty successful organization mid-year, we should to?

You really want to mimic the Browns decisions? Really? They hire Eric Mangini and give him full control, which is the worst decision in all of football.

You missed my point entirely.

People around here have been giving Pioli a pass based on the speculation that the reason the Chiefs draft was so poor is because he had to work with "Herm's Scouts". Which BTW, is a ridiculous and ill-legitimate excuse.

I pointed out the only logical reason for his firing is that Mangini had seen enough of his work and decided that he didn't want him to scout and oversee the 2010 draft.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-02-2009, 11:36 PM

I think the Browns may be more stupid than the Chiefs

Tiger's Fan · 11-02-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You missed my point entirely.

People around here have been giving Pioli a pass based on the speculation that the reason the Chiefs draft was so poor is because he had to work with "Herm's Scouts". Which BTW, is a ridiculous and ill-legitimate excuse.

I pointed out the only logical reason for his firing is that Mangini had seen enough of his work and decided that he didn't want him to scout and oversee the 2010 draft.

Keep ignoring the FACTS mouth breather.

Dane: Lets bring him in for a look!

DaWolf · 11-03-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You missed my point entirely.

People around here have been giving Pioli a pass based on the speculation that the reason the Chiefs draft was so poor is because he had to work with "Herm's Scouts". Which BTW, is a ridiculous and ill-legitimate excuse.

I pointed out the only logical reason for his firing is that Mangini had seen enough of his work and decided that he didn't want him to scout and oversee the 2010 draft.

Well they're saying the reason was that he and Mangini couldn't get along, and that Mangini was also trying to save his own arse.

And something about Kokinis talking to former co-workers and saying he should have never taken the job...

Basileus777 · 11-03-2009, 12:28 AM

Something tells me that it wasn't Kokinis who pushed for terrible trades for bums from the Jets. He was basically a front for Mangini all-along. If Lerner has any sense, this is just a prelude to firing Mangini later.

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