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Old 10-11-2021, 08:55 AM  
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The "Inevitability" of Mahomes

Seems like it's over in a big way after the Super Bowl.

Before February I really can't think of a game we lost because Mahomes failed to come through in the clutch.

It's already happened three times this year. Granted the Baltimore game wasn't directly his fault, but he didn't exactly put the game away when he had the chance either.

The Chargers game he had the ball with a chance to lead the game winning drive and instead threw an interception.

Last night, the defense actually made a couple stops early in the 2nd half to give us a chance to get back in the game. We responded with a pick six (again not his fault) and a backbreaking INT on the goal line that was.

Previously it felt like no deficit was too big, no defense was too good. Mahomes would overcome and make the plays when it mattered.

It hasn't happened this year.

To be clear, I don't think Pat is the problem. But he hasn't been the solution that he always has been in the past.

How he gets back to that, IDK. But the aura and the mystique seems to be fading.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:04 AM   #2
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:08 AM   #3
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This board really does overreact to everything. People need to get a grip and just wait to see how it plays out.

All they need to do is find a way to get the defense back to somewhere in the ballpark of last year's and to cut out some of the miscues. These things are doable.

Keep in mind that this was easily the toughest stretch of games they'll play this year. And frankly, they should be 4-1. It sucks to be in this position and no one expected it, but the gloom and doom is a little premature. There are a lot of games ahead.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:10 AM   #4
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Seems like it's over in a big way after the Super Bowl.

Before February I really can't think of a game we lost because Mahomes failed to come through in the clutch.

It's already happened three times this year. Granted the Baltimore game wasn't directly his fault, but he didn't exactly put the game away when he had the chance either.

The Chargers game he had the ball with a chance to lead the game winning drive and instead threw an interception.

Last night, the defense actually made a couple stops early in the 2nd half to give us a chance to get back in the game. We responded with a pick six (again not his fault) and a backbreaking INT on the goal line that was.

Previously it felt like no deficit was too big, no defense was too good. Mahomes would overcome and make the plays when it mattered.

It hasn't happened this year.

To be clear, I don't think Pat is the problem. But he hasn't been the solution that he always has been in the past.

How he gets back to that, IDK. But the aura and the mystique seems to be fading.
I couldn’t disagree more. First of all, Pat is going to make mistakes and secondly, his current mistakes are being made because he feels that he has to make something happen because of the dismal performance of his defense. To put it in prospective, we are giving up 7.1 yards per play. The 2000 Rams who many would say was the best offense ever averaged 7 yards per play. We aren’t playing the 2000 Rams so this should tell us the defensive effort is absolutely terrible.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:12 AM   #5
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:13 AM   #6
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Jeezus there are a lot of Mahomes threads today
The Uncomfortable Reality that is a fading Patrick Mahomes.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:15 AM   #7
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It's tough to know what's going on, but there's no question he's regressed a bit this year. He's had rough games in past years, but then he always would find a way to pull it together in the end.

Last night, he looked off all night. There were at least a half dozen throws that were there that he either sailed or planted in the dirt.

The D sucks, no doubt. But they DO tend to pull it together for a few drives each game. Normally, we'd expect the offense to take advantage of those. This year, we're just not.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:18 AM   #8
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You realize how hard it is to win a Superbowl right? Much less multiple as a QB. Brady isn't normal and failed more seasons than he won even with 7 titles and a slew of HGH. Shit people here said he was "done" after he failed a few times after number 3
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:18 AM   #9
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He was ****ing awful last night. No need to beat around the bush. He was awful.
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As soon as he duffed that throw to Kelce on the first drive I knew something was off. He never misses a wide open guy that badly.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:21 AM   #11
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You realize how hard it is to win a Superbowl right? Much less multiple as a QB. Brady isn't normal and failed more seasons than he won even with 7 titles and a slew of HGH. Shit people here said he was "done" after he failed a few times after number 3
I think we've all kind of known that regression was a likely possibility, but Mahomes looked so fantastic for the first few years that we'd hoped we might be able to buck the trend.

As it is, it looks like he's probably on the Rodgers trajectory. Fantastic player. Probably going to the HOF one day. But the leader of a dynasty? Seems highly unlikely (because it always was).
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:22 AM   #12
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He was ****ing awful last night. No need to beat around the bush. He was awful.
Not making excuses for Patrick but Tyreek dropped a TD and let the ball go through his hands for a pick 6.. But still not a Mahomes game that we’re used to.. He’s pressing a bit..
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I think he has an inury to his shoulder that is being hidden. He had NOTHING o nthe ball last night and threw about 20 grounders.

I've never seen him throwing worse
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Its quite simple really. He’s not taking the short stuff when its there. Its what analysts worried would happen his first three seasons but this season is when its happening. Couple that with CEH stock dropping significantly making it even mire difficult. I’m just glad we have a whole season to get it figured out. I can’t speak for the lack of pass rush, even when we blitz we rarely get home. I’m not sounding the alarm just yet. Most of the bounces this year have gone the wrong way and against good teams.
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But the leader of a dynasty? Seems highly unlikely (because it always was).
I do think it's a bit premature to think the dynasty talk is dead after a start like this.

We're coming off three consecutive trips to the AFC championship game. We're still in uncharted waters for anything this franchise has ever accomplished. It's early in the year, let's see if we can course correct. If we do happen to have a 2014 like finish, then it's likely time to consider if this franchise needs restructuring.
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