The "Inevitability" of Mahomes

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You realize how hard it is to win a Superbowl right? Much less multiple as a QB. Brady isn't normal and failed more seasons than he won even with 7 titles and a slew of HGH. Shit people here said he was "done" after he failed a few times after number 3

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

You realize how hard it is to win a Superbowl right? Much less multiple as a QB. Brady isn't normal and failed more seasons than he won even with 7 titles and a slew of HGH. Shit people here said he was "done" after he failed a few times after number 3

I think we've all kind of known that regression was a likely possibility, but Mahomes looked so fantastic for the first few years that we'd hoped we might be able to buck the trend.

As it is, it looks like he's probably on the Rodgers trajectory. Fantastic player. Probably going to the HOF one day. But the leader of a dynasty? Seems highly unlikely (because it always was).

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaFace

But the leader of a dynasty? Seems highly unlikely (because it always was).

I do think it's a bit premature to think the dynasty talk is dead after a start like this.

We're coming off three consecutive trips to the AFC championship game. We're still in uncharted waters for anything this franchise has ever accomplished. It's early in the year, let's see if we can course correct. If we do happen to have a 2014 like finish, then it's likely time to consider if this franchise needs restructuring.

[notorious]

Not going to lie, this is feeling Aaron Rodger-esc.

[kcclone]

Originally Posted by notorious

Not going to lie, this is feeling Aaron Rodger-esc.

This is a far more likely scenario than Brady & the Patriots.

Rogers-Packers, or Wilson-Seahawks is far more likely.

That's just the way the NFL is built. You get old fast at most positions, especially defense.

Unless your front office over performs in the draft, it's hard to stay in contention year after year. With Mahomes, we'll be in the playoff hunt most years, but we may not have a Super Bowl caliber squad more than 2-3 more times over the remainder of his career.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by kcclone

That's just the way the NFL is built. You get old fast at most positions, especially defense.

Unless your front office over performs in the draft, it's hard to stay in contention year after year. With Mahomes, we'll be in the playoff hunt most years, but we may not have a Super Bowl caliber squad more than 2-3 more times over the remainder of his career.

I think it's easy to forget how much the NFL stacks the odds against successful teams. If you are absolutely fantastic at drafting, you might be able to keep it going, but constantly drafting low eventually means you have to pay more in free agency, which means you can't keep your best guys. Add to that the scheduling structure that puts us up against three other division winners that no other AFCW teams have to contend with (Bills, Packers, and Titans), and it's just really tough to keep it going.

Brady is 1) insanely good and 2) the beneficiary of playing in a truly horrific division for most of his career.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I think we've all kind of known that regression was a likely possibility, but Mahomes looked so fantastic for the first few years that we'd hoped we might be able to buck the trend.

As it is, it looks like he's probably on the Rodgers trajectory. Fantastic player. Probably going to the HOF one day. But the leader of a dynasty? Seems highly unlikely (because it always was).

Not with this defense...

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I think we've all kind of known that regression was a likely possibility, but Mahomes looked so fantastic for the first few years that we'd hoped we might be able to buck the trend.

As it is, it looks like he's probably on the Rodgers trajectory. Fantastic player. Probably going to the HOF one day. But the leader of a dynasty? Seems highly unlikely (because it always was).

This. A lot of the fan base and certainly some of the media started to hype up this idiotic “can Mahomes catch Brady” narrative in regards to SB wins. Winning even one SB is an accomplishment that few achieve. Winning two is incredible. Anything more is next level unreal. Rodgers is probably the most gifted thrower of the ball I’ve ever seen. Unless you think he’s winning another one within the next couple of years (I don’t think so), he’ll finish with one. A few years ago, with the Legion of Doom and all, it was easy to think Wilson would win multiple SB. Now, he looks like the 3rd best QB in his own division.

Like it or not, what Brady has done will not be replicated. Not in our lifetime. It’s DiMaggio hitting streak level of protected.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Like it or not, what Brady has done will not be replicated. Not in our lifetime. It’s DiMaggio hitting streak level of protected.

Because he played on an unmatched string of elite level teams where he barely had to do anything but maintain ball possession and throw short passes. The mythology around Brady is honestly 10 times more ridiculous than it is around MJ and so much of it is underserved.