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Old 04-29-2009, 05:17 PM   Topic Starter
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Brandon Flowers
If I'm not mistaken Flowers was drafted last year, because he was the best Tampa 2 corner in the draft. He went in the second, because other teams that needed a CB weren't Tampa 2 D's.


My question is, will he be any good in our new D?
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:17 PM   #2
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:28 PM   #3
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Flowers is a physical corner with great ball skills. He fell because of his height, 40 time and character concerns - not because of any perceived defensive system fit.
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:11 PM   #4
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Flowers is a physical corner with great ball skills. He fell because of his height, 40 time and character concerns - not because of any perceived defensive system fit.
Yep.

I'm just concerned that the new staff has a "profile" for corners and they won't like his measurables.
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:18 PM   #5
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Yep.

I'm just concerned that the new staff has a "profile" for corners and they won't like his measurables.
Asante Sameul isn't the biggest guy in the universe and he was drafted by the Pats.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:12 AM   #6
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Flowers is a physical corner with great ball skills. He fell because of his height, 40 time and character concerns - not because of any perceived defensive system fit.
That's the problem though, he doesn't have that really good corner speed and is therefore a fit for the tampon 2..
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That's the problem though, he doesn't have that really good corner speed and is therefore a fit for the tampon 2..
Wrong. He doesn't have shorts & t-shirt, timed track speed. He has game speed, quickness, physicality and stellar technique. He can play corner in any system for any team.
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Wrong. He doesn't have shorts & t-shirt, timed track speed. He has game speed, quickness, physicality and stellar technique. He can play corner in any system for any team.
Shall I say it? Very similar to *cough* Ty Law *cough* in his prime
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Wrong. He doesn't have shorts & t-shirt, timed track speed. He has game speed, quickness, physicality and stellar technique. He can play corner in any system for any team.
I really hope this is so. Especially because he had the experience (and excelled) in the easier Tampa 2, which should help with the transition. A lot of teams were wary of him in a non Tampa 2 defense, so it isn't wrong.

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The pick: Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
What he brings: Flowers doesn't have elite size or top-end speed. Occasionally, he gets caught out of position trying to make a big play. However, he plays far bigger than his size indicates and faster than his 40 time suggest. He opens his hips very well and has the upper-body strength to deliver a violent punch. There's also a lot to like about his willingness to play the run.
How he fits: With the loss of Ty Law, the Chiefs had to address the left corner spot opposite Patrick Surtain. Flowers is a physical player who plays bigger than his size indicates, which is a good fit in the Chiefs' defensive coverage schemes.
I think he'll have an easier time adjusting than Carr....
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Wrong. He doesn't have shorts & t-shirt, timed track speed. He has game speed, quickness, physicality and stellar technique. He can play corner in any system for any team.
It is a nice feeling, to have a cache of young talented CBs!

It wasn't too long ago they were desparate and gave up a 2nd for Surtain and signed an "over the hill" Law.


Hate giving Herm ****ing Edwards any credit, but he is do some on this IMO.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:10 PM   #11
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It is a nice feeling, to have a cache of young talented CBs!

It wasn't too long ago they were desparate and gave up a 2nd for Surtain and signed an "over the hill" Law.


Hate giving Herm ****ing Edwards any credit, but he is do some on this IMO.
I will give Squirmin Herman credit for that. Leggitt isn't too horrible either. But while I'm giving him credit, I will stand on my desk and scream how much I don't want him near my team.
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:50 PM   #12
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I'm pretty sure they play a lot of man to man at Va Tech, so he should be fine.
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Kevin Ross had bad measurables too. He turned out ok.
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I know that the Patriots had a history of drafting guys that were under 6'. That doesn't mean these guys will stick with that. Other than Pioli, it's a completely different staff.

The first CB we took is a legit 6-footer with crazy measurables. I'm not saying that spells doom for Flowers and Carr - it just concerns me.
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