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Old 04-29-2009, 05:17 PM  
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Brandon Flowers

If I'm not mistaken Flowers was drafted last year, because he was the best Tampa 2 corner in the draft. He went in the second, because other teams that needed a CB weren't Tampa 2 D's.


My question is, will he be any good in our new D?
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:00 PM   #31
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That was my thought too. The one guy that played well on D. The ONE.



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Why do you say that? He is not as good as Flowers, but he had a much more intense transition from College (like Division 85 or whatever Grand Valley State is) than did Flowers.
Because I don't think he possesses enough speed, and his change of direction needs work.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:15 PM   #32
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Because I don't think he possesses enough speed, and his change of direction needs work.
As far as 40 time is concerned I believe Carr ran in the high 4.4's which would make him faster than both Flowers and Washington.

I don't see why Carr doesn't have what it takes to play in this league at a high level. Athletically he is very gifted. He played remarkably well for a rookie coming from a division II school, surrounded by mediocre talent, and playing with a historically bad pass rush.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:22 PM   #33
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As far as 40 time is concerned I believe Carr ran in the high 4.4's
He ran a 4.43
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:25 PM   #34
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He ran a 4.43
Cool, even better than I thought.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:27 PM   #35
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:12 AM   #36
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Flowers is a physical corner with great ball skills. He fell because of his height, 40 time and character concerns - not because of any perceived defensive system fit.
That's the problem though, he doesn't have that really good corner speed and is therefore a fit for the tampon 2..
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:32 AM   #37
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Because I don't think he possesses enough speed, and his change of direction needs work.
Fair enough.

The plays I remember him blowing, he was out of position, which can be expected coming from a DII school. Hopefully that can be rectified through coaching.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:40 AM   #38
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That's the problem though, he doesn't have that really good corner speed and is therefore a fit for the tampon 2..
Wrong. He doesn't have shorts & t-shirt, timed track speed. He has game speed, quickness, physicality and stellar technique. He can play corner in any system for any team.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:55 AM   #39
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Wrong. He doesn't have shorts & t-shirt, timed track speed. He has game speed, quickness, physicality and stellar technique. He can play corner in any system for any team.
Shall I say it? Very similar to *cough* Ty Law *cough* in his prime
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:01 AM   #40
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Few things I really like about Flowers when we drafted him, are his physical ability, and his ability to disect plays...He was known for that in college.

I think he can be a real physical/tough corner that possesses great smarts to go along with instincts. Great combination.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:49 AM   #42
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