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Old 09-20-2020, 11:10 PM   Topic Starter
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Why the hell wouldn’t the Chargers go for it on 4th down in OT?
You’re doing better against the Chiefs than anybody thought you would especially with a backup QB. Nobody would fault you if you went for it and it didn’t work out. If I’m a Charger enthusiast, I’d be pissed. That was a gutless call.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:13 PM   #2
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Probably the higher percentage call. Their defense was playing a lot better than their offense. If they don't convert on 4th down the game is over. It's not like it was crazy to punt.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:20 PM   #3
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Probably the higher percentage call. Their defense was playing a lot better than their offense. If they don't convert on 4th down the game is over. It's not like it was crazy to punt.
This right here. Either call was right. Either call was wrong. Depending on outcome.
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Old 09-21-2020, 06:40 AM   #4
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This right here. Either call was right. Either call was wrong. Depending on outcome.
This is the correct answer. I don't think there was a right or wrong call.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:27 PM   #5
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Probably the higher percentage call. Their defense was playing a lot better than their offense. If they don't convert on 4th down the game is over. It's not like it was crazy to punt.
I guess I just look at it as forcing our defense to make a play on fourth down which I think was very manageable. Regardless of field position if you give Pat another chance on offense you risk him putting it all and torching the defense. They took the super bowl champs into overtime, you’re playing with house money at that point.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:58 PM   #6
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Probably the higher percentage call. Their defense was playing a lot better than their offense. If they don't convert on 4th down the game is over. It's not like it was crazy to punt.
Absolutely not the higher percentage call. Sometimes its just your time to die and you will fail. They don't get the first down 1 out of 5 times probably. And when that happens, yeah you lose.

Facing a team with a great offense, quite possible a historic offense you go for without even blinking.

The problem is some NFL coaches are afraid to fail because sometimes it means your head on a platter.

I remember last yr when Baltimore kept going for it on 4th down and didn't pick up most of them. Was absolutely the right call even though they failed. The media and even his own fans were out to eat his lunch. But over the course of the season that aggressive mentality really paid off.
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Old 09-21-2020, 12:00 AM   #7
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Absolutely not the higher percentage call. Sometimes its just your time to die and you will fail. They don't get the first down 1 out of 5 times probably. And when that happens, yeah you lose.

Facing a team with a great offense, quite possible a historic offense you go for without even blinking.

The problem is some NFL coaches are afraid to fail because sometimes it means your head on a platter.

I remember last yr when Baltimore kept going for it on 4th down and didn't pick up most of them. Was absolutely the right call even though they failed. The media and even his own fans were out to eat his lunch. But over the course of the season that aggressive mentality really paid off.
I mean, it's why they kept going for it on 4th earlier. Coach turtled.
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Old 09-21-2020, 12:08 AM   #8
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Absolutely not the higher percentage call. Sometimes its just your time to die and you will fail. They don't get the first down 1 out of 5 times probably. And when that happens, yeah you lose.

Facing a team with a great offense, quite possible a historic offense you go for without even blinking.

The problem is some NFL coaches are afraid to fail because sometimes it means your head on a platter.

I remember last yr when Baltimore kept going for it on 4th down and didn't pick up most of them. Was absolutely the right call even though they failed. The media and even his own fans were out to eat his lunch. But over the course of the season that aggressive mentality really paid off.
They picked up like 1. And trying to convert all those 2-pointers cost them like 4 or 6 points. Guess what they lost by.

Analytics are great, but they don't account for specific situations and they don't allow for the human aspect. And sometimes people get caught up in analytics and forget that. Bottom line, the Ravens giving the Chiefs multiple short fields, and throwing away a half dozen points was stupid. As it turned out, failing to convert all those times cost them field position, which made it that much easier for the Chiefs to go 4-5 plays and score.

Btw, do you know what the analytics say about giving the Chiefs a short field? Basically it says it's a really bad idea.
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They picked up like 1. And trying to convert all those 2-pointers cost them like 4 or 6 points. Guess what they lost by.

Analytics are great, but they don't account for specific situations and they don't allow for the human aspect. And sometimes people get caught up in analytics and forget that. Bottom line, the Ravens giving the Chiefs multiple short fields, and throwing away a half dozen points was stupid. As it turned out, failing to convert all those times cost them field position, which made it that much easier for the Chiefs to go 4-5 plays and score.

Btw, do you know what the analytics say about giving the Chiefs a short field? Basically it says it's a really bad idea.
The thing is that WAS the game. If you dont get it you lose. And thats the way it is. But when the Chiefs need 3 points and have likely 4 downs to do it there is nobody who is going to stop them most of the time. Your best chance is to be aggressive, hunt the TD and if shit happens it happens. Result oriented thinking is simple minded thinking.
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The thing is that WAS the game. If you dont get it you lose. And thats the way it is. But when the Chiefs need 3 points and have likely 4 downs to do it there is nobody who is going to stop them most of the time. Your best chance is to be aggressive, hunt the TD and if shit happens it happens. Result oriented thinking is simple minded thinking.
Winning is a result.

And the Ravens with Lamar are 0-2 in the playoffs while blindly following analytics, while the Chiefs are 4-1and Super Bowl Champions following a coach that isn't interested in analytics. I rest my case.
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Probably the higher percentage call. Their defense was playing a lot better than their offense. If they don't convert on 4th down the game is over. It's not like it was crazy to punt.
This 100%. If you punt, you at least have a chance. It was the right call. As it was, it took a HOF performance by Buttkicker to get the W.
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Probably the higher percentage call. Their defense was playing a lot better than their offense. If they don't convert on 4th down the game is over. It's not like it was crazy to punt.
Dont convert the 4th down, Game over....

Punt, Game Over....

It was a lose lose situation for the Chargers.

THEIR ONLY, ONLY ****ing hope was to get that 4th down and keep the ball and continue on offense. At any point they gave the ball back to KC it was GAME OVER.

So by not going for it, they conceded the game. Its not debatable....
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Dont convert the 4th down, Game over....

Punt, Game Over....

It was a lose lose situation for the Chargers.

THEIR ONLY, ONLY ****ing hope was to get that 4th down and keep the ball and continue on offense. At any point they gave the ball back to KC it was GAME OVER.

So by not going for it, they conceded the game. Its not debatable....
It absolutely is debatable.

It's entirely possible they punt and then force the Chiefs to punt, like they had on 5 of the Chiefs previous 7 possessions.
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Because if they didn't make it it would be an instant win for the Chiefs. The Chargers were hoping their defense could get a couple of sacks and force a punt instead.
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It should be illegal for opposing coaches to willingly give the ball back to Mahomes in overtime. It’s like allowing them to move their king into a checkmate.

But hey, I’m not complaining.
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