Defensive changes

DenverChief · 01-02-2008, 07:18 AM

what say ye about the defensive side of the ball? did Gunther do a good job or no? Does he deserve another year? who do you expect the Chiefs to add to the D in the (likely) absence of Law/Surtain/Bell/Reed/Wesley? What other D players do you think get their walking papers......exciting times @ Arrowhead on the Offensive side of the ball ....what about the D IYO

TEX · 01-02-2008, 08:49 AM

I used ot be a GUN fan. He's shown me nothing since he came back. It's time for him to move on.

cmh6476 · 01-02-2008, 08:50 AM

we need better players

Fly O.T. McWall · 01-02-2008, 09:06 AM

i wanna go to arrowhead and talk to him face-to-face about kendrell bell.

Frankie · 01-02-2008, 09:07 AM

Our defense was one of the best ones in the NFL. They just ran out of gas, physically and emotionally, by carrying the 'O.' I like Gun, but I won't mind replacing him with a good young DC.

TEX · 01-02-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Our defense was one of the best ones in the NFL. They just ran out of gas, physically and emotionally, by carrying the 'O.' I like Gun, but I won't mind replacing him with a good young DC.

I agree with the concept, but our defense stopped being "one of the best" when we started playing real offenses. We were good, but we really had trouble stopping the run all season and gave up the big play far too often. I hoped the defense would be better than it is, in this, the 4th season under GUN.

tyton75 · 01-02-2008, 09:16 AM

Its hard for me to complain about the job GUN has done... considering we had NO ONE to work with on defense when he became DC he has done a damn good job putting some peices together.

Sure, its not the '97 defense, but a player like DT doesn't grow on tree's either.

I would say, don't rock the boat on defense while you are blowing up the offense. The D still has room to improve with the many young guys there, then add some young CB's and keep it going

Deberg_1990 · 01-02-2008, 10:39 AM

Gun blows.

Sure the defense has improved since he took over but thats not saying much really.

There are still massive problems with the defense. They still give up big plays. They still get gashed on the ground up the middle.

Same old same old.....Time for Gun to go. He should have been canned after the atrocious December of 2005. Why cant this organization grow some balls????

HC_Chief · 01-02-2008, 10:52 AM

Gunther has a proven track record of gawd-awful personnel decisions. His scheme is one-dimensional, and he is slow to make adjustments.

To echo past posters, Gun sucks.

This franchise needs to be gutted.

King_Chief_Fan · 01-02-2008, 11:08 AM

I say bye bye to Gun. His defense is as predictable as KC's offense. OT against the Jets, what was that. Jets marched down the field with ease.
I think Gun is done.

FAX · 01-02-2008, 11:12 AM

Gun just needs some new guys.

You know, this defense does not really look like a Gunther defense, to me. Does it to you guys? I'm talking about the aggressiveness. Then again, I suppose the C2 doesn't lend itself to the corner blitz. Not that either one of our corners could get to the backfield in less than a minute.

FAX

cmh6476 · 01-02-2008, 11:22 AM

we had good players when gun's d was good

Micjones · 01-02-2008, 11:27 AM

I like Gunther Cunningham.

Can't say I wouldn't jump at the change to upgrade that spot though.

He's not coaching the style of defense he's used to...

Deberg_1990 · 01-02-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

You know, this defense does not really look like a Gunther defense, to me. Does it to you guys? I'm talking about the aggressiveness. Then again, I suppose the C2 doesn't lend itself to the corner blitz. Not that either one of our corners could get to the backfield in less than a minute.

FAX

Exactly why i always questioned why did Herm keep this turd around when he came aboard???

Direckshun · 01-02-2008, 11:31 AM

I think Gun should stay. His playcalling is solid, in my opinion, and his leadership off the field is stellar.

Mark my words, the Chiefs want to draft two starting corners and a stud DT. They probably want a DE, too, an OLB to be Edwards' heir on the weak side and some depth at S.

That's a lot of gaps to fill, to say nothing of lots OL and at least one WR (or god forbid a K), which leads me to believe the Chiefs may trade down this year.

01-02-2008, 07:18 AM
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01-02-2008, 08:49 AM	#2
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01-02-2008, 08:50 AM	#3
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01-02-2008, 09:07 AM	#5
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Our defense was one of the best ones in the NFL. They just ran out of gas, physically and emotionally, by carrying the 'O.' I like Gun, but I won't mind replacing him with a good young DC.
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01-02-2008, 09:16 AM	#7
tyton75 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3678386	Its hard for me to complain about the job GUN has done... considering we had NO ONE to work with on defense when he became DC he has done a damn good job putting some peices together. Sure, its not the '97 defense, but a player like DT doesn't grow on tree's either. I would say, don't rock the boat on defense while you are blowing up the offense. The D still has room to improve with the many young guys there, then add some young CB's and keep it going __________________
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01-02-2008, 10:39 AM	#8
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $54454	Gun blows. Sure the defense has improved since he took over but thats not saying much really. There are still massive problems with the defense. They still give up big plays. They still get gashed on the ground up the middle. Same old same old.....Time for Gun to go. He should have been canned after the atrocious December of 2005. Why cant this organization grow some balls???? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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01-02-2008, 10:52 AM	#9
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Gunther has a proven track record of gawd-awful personnel decisions. His scheme is one-dimensional, and he is slow to make adjustments. To echo past posters, Gun sucks. This franchise needs to be gutted. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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01-02-2008, 11:08 AM	#10
King_Chief_Fan Praise Him Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: none ya Casino cash: $4755486	I say bye bye to Gun. His defense is as predictable as KC's offense. OT against the Jets, what was that. Jets marched down the field with ease. I think Gun is done. __________________ No Jesus No Peace Know Jesus Know Peace Ephesians 2:8-10 English Standard Version (ESV) 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
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01-02-2008, 11:12 AM	#11
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Gun just needs some new guys. You know, this defense does not really look like a Gunther defense, to me. Does it to you guys? I'm talking about the aggressiveness. Then again, I suppose the C2 doesn't lend itself to the corner blitz. Not that either one of our corners could get to the backfield in less than a minute. FAX
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01-02-2008, 11:22 AM	#12
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01-02-2008, 11:27 AM	#13
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01-02-2008, 11:31 AM	#15
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I think Gun should stay. His playcalling is solid, in my opinion, and his leadership off the field is stellar. Mark my words, the Chiefs want to draft two starting corners and a stud DT. They probably want a DE, too, an OLB to be Edwards' heir on the weak side and some depth at S. That's a lot of gaps to fill, to say nothing of lots OL and at least one WR (or god forbid a K), which leads me to believe the Chiefs may trade down this year.
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