Poop Gretz) Carl: It Was Never Close

booger · 10-14-2008, 06:37 PM

Carl: It Was Never Close
October 14, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

Speaking from St. Petersburg, Florida where the NFL is holding its annual October meetings, Carl Peterson said Tuesday night that a deal for Tony Gonzalez was never close to happening.

“No, it was never close,” Peterson said. “For a player of Tony’s stature I was willing to accomodate something I don’t normally do. I went out to see if there were teams interested in him. I did that and there were very few teams that were interested.

“Tony and his representative (Tom Condon) knew from the start that any deal had to make sense for the Kansas City Chiefs and no one came close. No proposal compared to the value of Tony Gonzalez to the Kansas City Chiefs.”

Peterson incidated that it all came down to three teams that he would not identify. He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation.

“I used as my measuring stick the fact that the New York Giants got a second and fifth round picks for Jeremy Shockey,” said Peterson. “Although he is five years younger, in my opinion he’s not as good and never will be as good as Tony Gonzalez. Had a team come to us with a second-round pick, then there would have been a reason to continue the conversation. That never happened.

“As far as I’m concerned, if you trade Tony Gonzalez for a second-day draft pick, you really have demeaned one helluva football player. I know where he’s at, I know he’s 32 years old. His value to the Kansas City Chiefs exceeds anything that was offered.

“I listened to proposals that were not even close.”

Does Peterson have any concerns about Gonzalez and his return to the team after this disappointment?

“I saw some comments made by Brian Waters and I have to agree with them; I think Tony will be a professional and he’ll handle this the way he’s done everything else, by coming in and working hard,” Peterson said. “I’m sure he’s not happy, but he understood the situation from the start.

“We were not going to just give Tony Gonzalez away. He understood that wasn’t going to happen.”

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**SAUTO** · 10-14-2008, 06:39 PM

sound decision IMO. you dont give a TG away

BigVE · 10-14-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Carl: It Was Never Close
October 14, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

Speaking from St. Petersburg, Florida where the NFL is holding its annual October meetings, Carl Peterson said Tuesday night that a deal for Tony Gonzalez was never close to happening.

“No, it was never close,” Peterson said. “For a player of Tony’s stature I was willing to accomodate something I don’t normally do. I went out to see if there were teams interested in him. I did that and there were very few teams that were interested.

“Tony and his representative (Tom Condon) knew from the start that any deal had to make sense for the Kansas City Chiefs and no one came close. No proposal compared to the value of Tony Gonzalez to the Kansas City Chiefs.”

Peterson incidated that it all came down to three teams that he would not identify. He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation.

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I thought only rounds ONE and TWO were on day one now. ? It wasn't likely that TG was going to garner day one picks.

10-14-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVE

I thought only rounds ONE and TWO were on day one now. ? It wasn't likely that TG was going to garner day one picks.

No kidding. You'd think Bob would have seen that press release or something.

chiefs1111 · 10-14-2008, 07:20 PM

Im not surprised

Ebolapox · 10-14-2008, 07:22 PM

shocker.

Chiefnj2 · 10-14-2008, 07:26 PM

That would mean Schefter was wrong, or Carl was lying as not to offend Buffalo.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

That would mean Schefter was wrong, or Carl was lying as not to offend Buffalo.

No one offered a 1st or 2nd, which now constitutes a 1st day pick.

Schefter reported that a team offered a 3rd.

So, Carl wasn't lying, and Schefter wasn't wrong.

Chiefnj2 · 10-14-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No one offered a 1st or 2nd, which now constitutes a 1st day pick.

Schefter reported that a team offered a 3rd.

So, Carl wasn't lying, and Schefter wasn't wrong.

Gretz defined first day pick as rounds 1-3. A 3rd round pick would constitute a first day pick according to Gretz.

"He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-14-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Gretz defined first day pick as rounds 1-3. A 3rd round pick would constitute a first day pick according to Gretz.

"He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation."

And you personally know that Gretz is wrong.

Not sure why you're debating this.

If Carl said that no one offered a first day pick, when a first day pick is considered R1/R2, and Gretz said that CARL said that no one offered a fist day pick then ****ED UP and said that R1/R2/R3 were first day picks, how are you claiming that Carl is a liar?

jspchief · 10-14-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Gretz defined first day pick as rounds 1-3. A 3rd round pick would constitute a first day pick according to Gretz.

"He would not comment on the proposals, but said none of them contained a first-day draft choice (rounds one through three) in compensation."

It's possible that the error was Gretz's in referring to picks in rnd 1-3 as "first day" picks. I mean we are talking about a change in the draft that has only occured on paper at this point... easy enough to still think of it the old way.

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-14-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Speaking from St. Petersburg, Florida where the NFL is holding its annual October meetings,

Shit.. I wonder where they're being held

StcChief · 10-14-2008, 07:30 PM

If Shockey gets a 2nd/5th Tony is worth at least a 2nd or 3rd just on that alone.

Mecca · 10-15-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

If Shockey gets a 2nd/5th Tony is worth at least a 2nd or 3rd just on that alone.

Yea let's not factor in their ages eh?

**Dylan** · 10-15-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea let's not factor in their ages eh?

And weren't the Saints stupid? Don't forget, Sean Payton was an offensive coordinator for the Giants during Shockey's rookie year. Payton was pushing the Saints GM to acquire Scockey back in January. I heard that Shockey failed the physical. I thought we were getting him back... Lord have mercy... he stinks. lol He has fans in NY... but you know how that goes...

Gilbride, the offensive coordinator for the Giants played Shockey more as a blocker. Shockey wanted to be a WR...

Hell, I'd take the money and run too

nite

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