DAMN YOU COLLEGE BASKETBALL FANS!!! YOU PIECES OF CRAP!!!

[T-post Tom]

Blame overzealous fans, not players, for college basketball’s woes

by Yael T. Abouhalkah

College basketball fans are out of control, and not just at Texas Tech.

These out-of-control fans are staining a game played by 18-22 year olds, “student-athletes” who don’t get paid directly (but often get scholarships) to attend school.

The fans are overzealous at the University of Kansas in Lawrence, the University of Missouri in Columbia, Kansas State University in Manhattan and basically most other NCAA schools that take basketball oh-so-seriously.

The Marcus Smart-Jeff Orr confrontation Saturday night has received national attention, and for good reason.

Smart, an Oklahoma State student, was wrong to go into the stands and shove Orr, a fan, near the conclusion of the Cowboys’ game with Texas Tech. His three-game suspension, handed out Sunday, is appropriate.

But Orr — a proclaimed “super fan” of the Red Raiders — was also wrong for, in his own words, calling Smart a “piece of crap” right before the incident.

Orr represents much of what’s wrong with college basketball these days: Yelling negative comments at Texas Tech’s opponents, spending thousands of dollars to attend games around the country, and seeming to take great delight in the attention he gets by simply sitting in the stands, contributing too little that’s positive to the game itself.

Orr said Sunday that he wouldn’t attend any more Texas Tech games this year. (That makes me want Texas Tech to make it to the Final Four this year, just to punish Orr even more.)

The Smart/Orr incident is hardly the only example of how fans have gone way overboard in investing in college basketball these days. (The same argument could be made, and even stronger, in football, but that’s a whole other discussion.)

Just look at KU, my alma mater, which is led by $5-million-a-year coach Bill Self.

That salary is obscene, but it is, of course, just one of many multimillion-salaries for coaches of “student-athletes” in the college game. Who supports paying this kind of money to Self? The fans who want KU to be a national powerhouse, the fans who put pressure on KU’s athletic directors to overpay for this kind of position.

And the bad fans come in all ages.

Over at MU, basketball fans known as the Antlers have been tossed out of games this year for being disrespectful to other teams.

Finally, watch Twitter feeds, blogs and other social media these days to see how over-invested fans get in the outcome of a college basketball game.

These “fans” are hyper-critical of the smallest things, acting as if they are playing themselves, taking all of this oh-so-seriously.

They appear to be almost unhinged, as if something really important in their lives were riding on the outcome of a college basketball game.

This is how we get to sad incident like the one that happened Saturday night in Lubbock, Texas.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/09...#storylink=cpy

[Brock]

You have to love how people act like this is something new.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

You have to love how people act like this is something new.

There are some things that are definitely new. The world of social media has taken heckling to a new level, and it's a lot easier for athletes' private lives to become heckling bait. More than anything, even if it's not anything new, it's been long due that we start having this conversation.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Sport is pure garbage

[HonestChieffan]

Yael T. Abouhalkah


He is a piece of crap.


And the Antlers were rude? What? I bet next year some naughty person says a bad word at a Chiefs game.

Slow day for the editorial department at the red star

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There are some things that are definitely new. The world of social media has taken heckling to a new level, and it's a lot easier for athletes' private lives to become heckling bait. More than anything, even if it's not anything new, it's been long due that we start having this conversation.

Nah. This conversation has been had before, it doesn't change anything. Fans are fans, it's never going to change. Move on.

[Simplicity]

[Eleazar]

Every single time, I mean every time I see Yael T. Abouhalkah's name attached to something on the Star's website, it's just brimming with stupid.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by PGM

My team stinks

FYP

[RealSNR]

Because college basketball fans in the 70s, 80s, and 90s practiced good sportsmanship 100% of the time, said "please" and "thank you" in public, washed their hands after every trip to the bathroom, and had farts that smelled like cinnamon rolls.

This author can go **** himself.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Every single time, I mean every time I see Yael T. Abouhalkah's name attached to something on the Star's website, it's just brimming with stupid.

Lewis Duiguid can trump old Yael anyway of the week. But you are right.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SNR

Because college basketball fans in the 70s, 80s, and 90s practiced good sportsmanship 100% of the time, said "please" and "thank you" in public, washed their hands after every trip to the bathroom, and had farts that smelled like cinnamon rolls.

This author can go **** himself.

Every bit of heckling is magnified. It's hard not to feel for a young college kicker who misses a field goal, then gets death threats through multiple media channels. We live in a new age. Fans know way too much personal information including where you live, faces are more recognizable, and there are so many media channels out there that you can't hide like you used to from criticism.

I think it's a lousy system that fans live in this bubble where they can say the worst kind of things, but if a player responds by shoving, flicking a fan off, responding to a tweet... all of a sudden, the player is the one that was out of line. In a perfect world, I wish players could just drill assholes who go one step too far. Since it isn't a perfect world, there should be more fans and players who call out fans who don't know where that line is. So while the digital world makes it tougher to have thick skin, it might also finally hold assholes more accountable.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Every bit of heckling is magnified. It's hard not to feel for a young college kicker who misses a field goal, then gets death threats through multiple media channels. We live in a new age. Fans know way too much personal information including where you live, faces are more recognizable, and there are so many media channels out there that you can't hide like you used to from criticism.

I think it's a lousy system that fans live in this bubble where they can say the worst kind of things, but if a player responds by shoving, flicking a fan off, responding to a tweet... all of a sudden, the player is the one that was out of line. In a perfect world, I wish players could just drill assholes who go one step too far. Since it isn't a perfect world, there should be more fans and players who call out fans who don't know where that line is. So while the digital world makes it tougher to have thick skin, it might also finally hold assholes more accountable.

So does calling a player a "piece of crap" meet your standard for the fan getting drilled? What if the fan was a senior citizen? A disabled person? A soldier in uniform? A woman? A child? Just curious where you think the line is.

(What you said about social media is true, but doesn't seem to apply in the Orr/Smart incident.)

[Bambi]

Woes?

Syracuse - Duke was the 4th highest rated regular season game on ESPN since 2002. And it was played on a Saturday night… the worst TV night of the week.

College Basketball ratings and ad revenue are at all time records.

dumb article

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

So does calling a player a "piece of crap" meet your standard for the fan getting drilled? What if the fan was a senior citizen? A disabled person? A soldier in uniform? A woman? A child? Just curious where you think the line is.

(What you said about social media is true, but doesn't seem to apply in the Orr/Smart incident.)

On Orr specifically... I'll wait to hear the full story on this. As of right now, no real smoking gun. But John Lucas, a more credible source, implies that he's said some pretty bad shit. So even if he's innocent (again... we'll see), he may have done enough over his lifetime as a superfan that he deserves negative attention.

The line is drawn regardless of race or gender. I said in another thread, in sports, you have a lot of leeway. I think any reasonable human being should know where those lines are.

On the race issue... Desmond Moses said the N-word gets used regularly in Lubbock, and he didn't hear that everywhere. So again... I'm interested to hear how this plays out as the truth unfolds.