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Old 02-09-2014, 11:24 PM   #1
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Every bit of heckling is magnified. It's hard not to feel for a young college kicker who misses a field goal, then gets death threats through multiple media channels. We live in a new age. Fans know way too much personal information including where you live, faces are more recognizable, and there are so many media channels out there that you can't hide like you used to from criticism.

I think it's a lousy system that fans live in this bubble where they can say the worst kind of things, but if a player responds by shoving, flicking a fan off, responding to a tweet... all of a sudden, the player is the one that was out of line. In a perfect world, I wish players could just drill assholes who go one step too far. Since it isn't a perfect world, there should be more fans and players who call out fans who don't know where that line is. So while the digital world makes it tougher to have thick skin, it might also finally hold assholes more accountable.
So does calling a player a "piece of crap" meet your standard for the fan getting drilled? What if the fan was a senior citizen? A disabled person? A soldier in uniform? A woman? A child? Just curious where you think the line is.

(What you said about social media is true, but doesn't seem to apply in the Orr/Smart incident.)

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Old 02-09-2014, 11:52 PM   #2
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So does calling a player a "piece of crap" meet your standard for the fan getting drilled? What if the fan was a senior citizen? A disabled person? A soldier in uniform? A woman? A child? Just curious where you think the line is.

(What you said about social media is true, but doesn't seem to apply in the Orr/Smart incident.)
On Orr specifically... I'll wait to hear the full story on this. As of right now, no real smoking gun. But John Lucas, a more credible source, implies that he's said some pretty bad shit. So even if he's innocent (again... we'll see), he may have done enough over his lifetime as a superfan that he deserves negative attention.

The line is drawn regardless of race or gender. I said in another thread, in sports, you have a lot of leeway. I think any reasonable human being should know where those lines are.

On the race issue... Desmond Moses said the N-word gets used regularly in Lubbock, and he didn't hear that everywhere. So again... I'm interested to hear how this plays out as the truth unfolds.
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:29 AM   #3
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On Orr specifically... I'll wait to hear the full story on this. As of right now, no real smoking gun. But John Lucas, a more credible source, implies that he's said some pretty bad shit. So even if he's innocent (again... we'll see), he may have done enough over his lifetime as a superfan that he deserves negative attention.

The line is drawn regardless of race or gender. I said in another thread, in sports, you have a lot of leeway. I think any reasonable human being should know where those lines are.

On the race issue... Desmond Moses said the N-word gets used regularly in Lubbock, and he didn't hear that everywhere. So again... I'm interested to hear how this plays out as the truth unfolds.
Well so far as I've heard or read, "piece of crap" seems to be the only "slur" (obviously non-racial) attributed to Orr. Hardly seems worthy of "getting drilled". But like you, I'll reserve judgement until I hear or read more detail on the matter.
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