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Old 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM  
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2013 QB Class
This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #121
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Thats the thing Laz, you can't put NFL production in there, because you don't know what this years class will be NFL.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #122
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Ok, I'm not necessarily arguing that they don't want one.

It's how they think we need to get one that they are all ****ed up about.
which is a simple disagreement, not an insult or declaration of war.

Yet you rage about the subject all the time


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Old 12-11-2012, 04:01 PM   #123
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Thats the thing Laz, you can't put NFL production in there, because you don't know what this years class will be NFL.
i know which is why i left Russel Wilson at 10 even though he has clearly been more productive than others.

ranking wise you can see the issue people have ......... if you choose to
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:02 PM   #124
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If you combine last and this year's QB class you would find that the best of this year's class would be fighting to be the 3,4 or 5th ranked QB. Most of the draftubators didn't want Tannehill even at #12 and this year he would be challenging for the top QB spot.

*** And that's not even counting Russell Wilson who's real NFL production should put him #3

1. Luck
2. RGIII
3. Geno Smith
4. Tannehill
5. Weeden
6. Tyler Wilson
7. Barkley
8. Bray
9. Osweiler
10. Russell Wilson ***

I have already said that the Chiefs don't have much of a choice. They take Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and HOPE that they live up to their potential.

Doesn't mean i can't understand people's doubt about the QB position this year though.
No chance Weeden would be ranked higher than Wilson.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:03 PM   #125
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T.Wilson > Tannehill

R. Wilson>>>>>>Assweiler
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Like I said in the OP, last years QB class is the anomaly.


This years class is as good or better than nearly every previous class.
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:05 PM   #127
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If you combine last and this year's QB class you would find that the best of this year's class would be fighting to be the 3,4 or 5th ranked QB. Most of the draftubators didn't want Tannehill even at #12 and this year he would be challenging for the top QB spot.

*** And that's not even counting Russell Wilson who's real NFL production should put him #3

1. Luck
2. RGIII
3. Geno Smith
4. Tannehill
5. Weeden
6. Tyler Wilson
7. Barkley
8. Bray
9. Osweiler
10. Russell Wilson ***

I have already said that the Chiefs don't have much of a choice. They take Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and HOPE that they live up to their potential.

Doesn't mean i can't understand people's doubt about the QB position this year though.
actually, 'drafturbators' did want tannehill...or at least a loud crew - of which i was one - and who i assume you mean by that

second, Wilson is absolutely the prospect that Tannehill is...and Weeden is old geezer i wouldn't even rank due to age..

being 3rd and 4th behind Luck and RG3 (who most people here didn't think was great, and wouldn't have traded for) is not a knock...

people are just using Luck for cover for the same old "it's risky" and "he's not good enough" bullshit that happens every ****ing year from a fanbase full of pussies...

what the **** else would Geno Smith need to do - EXACTLY - to be 'not risky' for this fanbase?

i would really like to know...
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CP is the 1% of hardcore fans.


The other 99% are the ones who listen to Kiper or whoever and just go along with what they are told. It's how this franchise got by for so long trotting out the Damon Huards of the world.
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That's true. Many think Klein is going to be picked 1st just because he was nominated for the Heisman.
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Laz, every year it's been "oh noes it's too risky" then later it's "we should have drafted this guy"


We have to many gutless fans who are fine with a good game day experience and a mediocre team that wins some games.


They don't deserve shit.
1. the 'too risky' part is vastly overstated.

2. the 'should have drafted' part has two sources, somebody has a couple decent games, or a decent drive or two, and Cassel continues to play with his own poop.
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I disagree

I would say that there are large % of Chiefs' fans that aren't extreme like yourself but 99.9999 of them want a franchise QB.

Your Tea Party-esque stance on the issue is more about you then them.
Listening to radio callers the last few days, I think he's closer to the truth than you are.

It's about 70/30 people wanting to draft Manti or pick up Alex Smith vs. people who want to draft a QB.
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I would HATE the Te'o pick. That should tell you everything you need to know.
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Keitzman spent the 2nd half of the 3 oclock hour saying that people that don't want to draft a QB because "there aren't any worth the #1 pick" are being silly.

Even he knows the Chiefs HAVE to take a QB.
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So if there isn't a QB worth the #1 overall pick, who is worth it?

The reward is absolutely worth the risk, when talking about QB's.
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