Chiefs Have some perspective guys

tooge · 09-08-2008, 01:45 PM

Of course we all want to bag on Carl, Herm, Chan and Gun. They lost. But, how quickly everyone seems to have forgotten that this team is the 2nd youngest in the league and they played the defending AFC champs at their place. I would think chiefs nation would be jumping for joy that they had a chance to win this game at all. If my memory serves me right, 2 months ago everyone was saying that they will start off pretty mistake prone and aweful and slowly improve over the course of the season. If they improve from here like everyone thought they would from the start, they should be pretty good by week 10 or 12. As far as Croyle, it is what it is. We could have drafted the kid from Michigan (Henne?), and now we would be bitching that he couldn't stay healthy. That hit would have separated most guys shoulders. It'll suck to have to use a number one or two on QB next year, but that may be the case. My point here is that this young team showed alot of moxie and alot of promise from what most thought. This season will be more fun to watch than most of us probably thought. Enjoy it for that. Our team is 2 years away anyhow, and most realistic chiefs fans knew that going in,.

King_Chief_Fan · 09-08-2008, 01:51 PM

A four period dose of a healthy Brady would have changed your perspective.

On the hit that put Croyle down.....you must be kidding. 3 injuries in 7 games says a lot more about this poor excuse of an NFL QB than that hit.

bkkcoh · 09-08-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

A four period dose of a healthy Brady would have changed your perspective.

On the hit that put Croyle down.....you must be kidding. 3 injuries in 7 games says a lot more about this poor excuse of an NFL QB than that hit.

I would also say that says a lot about the offensive line. A QB shouldn't be taking hits like that. That shot would have hurt almost any QB.

**SAUTO** · 09-08-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh

I would also say that says a lot about the offensive line. A QB shouldn't be taking hits like that. That shot would have hurt almost any QB.

NO it wouldnt have ASK MECCA

MVChiefFan · 09-08-2008, 01:51 PM

I really thought we would get shilacked. I know Brady went down, but seriously, I was ok with most things. But, I have a question, was anyone else REALLY wishing we would have signed Feeley when Novak came trotting out for the FG? I don't think I'll be confident in a FG attempt all season.

JuicesFlowing · 09-08-2008, 01:54 PM

The truth is, Chan Gailey is a huge disappointment after game #1. Chicken shit playcalling. It sure is funny to me that Croyle has this great arm yet never gets to use it. Once again, that Chicago preseason game was a mirage. They showed more things in that game than they did in a game that counts.

**Buehler445** · 09-08-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

The truth is, Chan Gailey is a huge disappointment after game #1. Chicken shit playcalling. It sure is funny to me that Croyle has this great arm yet never gets to use it. Once again, that Chicago preseason game was a mirage. They showed more things in that game than they did in a game that counts.

To me this screams Herman ****ing Edwards. Chan showed that he could do some good things in the preseason. Moreover the plays that were predictable were the SAME ****ING PLAYS AS LAST YEAR. Two different QBs calling the same predictable plays? I don't think so. Especially after watching Solari get shitcanned for those same damn plays. This is 100% Herman ****ing Edwards.

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Sure-Oz · 09-08-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

The truth is, Chan Gailey is a huge disappointment after game #1. Chicken shit playcalling. It sure is funny to me that Croyle has this great arm yet never gets to use it. Once again, that Chicago preseason game was a mirage. They showed more things in that game than they did in a game that counts.

Probably more HERM than Chan

Stinger · 09-08-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

The truth is, Chan Gailey is a huge disappointment after game #1. .

I believe that is the Crux right here. After 1 game, ONE Game we are quick to label and lose faith in like many here believe Herm does with his staff and his QB's.

tooge · 09-08-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing

The truth is, Chan Gailey is a huge disappointment after game #1. Chicken shit playcalling. It sure is funny to me that Croyle has this great arm yet never gets to use it. Once again, that Chicago preseason game was a mirage. They showed more things in that game than they did in a game that counts.

You do realize that nobody is able to run on the pats right. You also know that he put the chiefs in position to win the game. Bowe dropped the TD to tie the game for petes sake. Chicago's D scheme is different than NE's. I'm just saying that I for one was pretty happy with the effort these guys put forth. And, I remember that Tony G was a dropping passes machine his second year, Dale Carter got burned alot his first year. If we see the same result sunday at home against the Raiders, then I will be the first one here bithching.

JuicesFlowing · 09-08-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

You do realize that nobody is able to run on the pats right. You also know that he put the chiefs in position to win the game. Bowe dropped the TD to tie the game for petes sake. Chicago's D scheme is different than NE's. I'm just saying that I for one was pretty happy with the effort these guys put forth. And, I remember that Tony G was a dropping passes machine his second year, Dale Carter got burned alot his first year. If we see the same result sunday at home against the Raiders, then I will be the first one here bithching.

Overall, i was pretty happy with the game, i just don't understand the playcalling with this team. The Chiefs offense looked exactly the same as the 2007 team. Absolutely the same. That's my only complaint. And yeah, it probably is Herm, I don't know. It just seems like they aren't creative, aren't trying ... BORING.

blaise · 09-08-2008, 01:55 PM

I'm skeptical about the "one of the youngest teams" angle. There's been a lot of teams that have been the youngest team and they still stink three years later.
I really wonder how many of these young guys they can retain anyway once their initial contracts expire. Most NFL teams turnover like 75% in three years. We'll see. I don't buy it. It's not baseball where guys can develop for 5 years.

blaise · 09-08-2008, 02:12 PM

The OC is always the initial scapegoat because it's the ultimate armchair QB reaction. When people sit there they can always say "Why did you run that play?"
That's why OC's are usually among the first ones fired when things go sour, because it appeases the fans for a time.
The best OC couldn't make any more out of this turdfest than Gailey will. Croyle isn't good, there's never been any reason or evidence to think otherwise- in college or the NFL. The whole drafting of Croyle as your QBOTF was a sham and a joke.

**Baby Lee** · 09-08-2008, 03:43 PM

Jesus people, since their first SB win, it's been clear that the Pats are NOT the team to go creative on O with. People talk about their secondary being a weakness, but I submit Belichek will never have a weak secondary. Fer chissakes he got a w/r into all world DB shape ON THE FLY. You go trying to work some trickery and Brodie's a bewildered mess in the vein of Ryan Leaf facing DT and Co.

Rasputin · 09-08-2008, 03:56 PM

Is it too much to ask Chan Gailey or Herm Edwards to throw the ball on first down? Every drive started with a run, only a few times after a first down did they pass but it was so predictable to run on first down. Play action on first down could have been a big play. Just a thought.

09-08-2008, 01:45 PM	Topic Starter
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $544112	Have some perspective guys Of course we all want to bag on Carl, Herm, Chan and Gun. They lost. But, how quickly everyone seems to have forgotten that this team is the 2nd youngest in the league and they played the defending AFC champs at their place. I would think chiefs nation would be jumping for joy that they had a chance to win this game at all. If my memory serves me right, 2 months ago everyone was saying that they will start off pretty mistake prone and aweful and slowly improve over the course of the season. If they improve from here like everyone thought they would from the start, they should be pretty good by week 10 or 12. As far as Croyle, it is what it is. We could have drafted the kid from Michigan (Henne?), and now we would be bitching that he couldn't stay healthy. That hit would have separated most guys shoulders. It'll suck to have to use a number one or two on QB next year, but that may be the case. My point here is that this young team showed alot of moxie and alot of promise from what most thought. This season will be more fun to watch than most of us probably thought. Enjoy it for that. Our team is 2 years away anyhow, and most realistic chiefs fans knew that going in,.
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09-08-2008, 01:51 PM	#2
King_Chief_Fan Praise Him Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: none ya Casino cash: $4755486	A four period dose of a healthy Brady would have changed your perspective. On the hit that put Croyle down.....you must be kidding. 3 injuries in 7 games says a lot more about this poor excuse of an NFL QB than that hit. __________________ No Jesus No Peace Know Jesus Know Peace Ephesians 2:8-10 English Standard Version (ESV) 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
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09-08-2008, 01:51 PM	#5
MVChiefFan Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Here Casino cash: $-2267525	I really thought we would get shilacked. I know Brady went down, but seriously, I was ok with most things. But, I have a question, was anyone else REALLY wishing we would have signed Feeley when Novak came trotting out for the FG? I don't think I'll be confident in a FG attempt all season. __________________ I haven’t slept for ten days straight… because that would be way too long.
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09-08-2008, 01:54 PM	#6
JuicesFlowing Losing with passion. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oblivion Casino cash: $10004925	The truth is, Chan Gailey is a huge disappointment after game #1. Chicken shit playcalling. It sure is funny to me that Croyle has this great arm yet never gets to use it. Once again, that Chicago preseason game was a mirage. They showed more things in that game than they did in a game that counts.
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09-08-2008, 01:55 PM	#12
blaise In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $9989900	I'm skeptical about the "one of the youngest teams" angle. There's been a lot of teams that have been the youngest team and they still stink three years later. I really wonder how many of these young guys they can retain anyway once their initial contracts expire. Most NFL teams turnover like 75% in three years. We'll see. I don't buy it. It's not baseball where guys can develop for 5 years.
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09-08-2008, 02:12 PM	#13
blaise In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $9989900	The OC is always the initial scapegoat because it's the ultimate armchair QB reaction. When people sit there they can always say "Why did you run that play?" That's why OC's are usually among the first ones fired when things go sour, because it appeases the fans for a time. The best OC couldn't make any more out of this turdfest than Gailey will. Croyle isn't good, there's never been any reason or evidence to think otherwise- in college or the NFL. The whole drafting of Croyle as your QBOTF was a sham and a joke.
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09-08-2008, 03:43 PM	#14
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	Jesus people, since their first SB win, it's been clear that the Pats are NOT the team to go creative on O with. People talk about their secondary being a weakness, but I submit Belichek will never have a weak secondary. Fer chissakes he got a w/r into all world DB shape ON THE FLY. You go trying to work some trickery and Brodie's a bewildered mess in the vein of Ryan Leaf facing DT and Co. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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09-08-2008, 03:56 PM	#15
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $-34579	Is it too much to ask Chan Gailey or Herm Edwards to throw the ball on first down? Every drive started with a run, only a few times after a first down did they pass but it was so predictable to run on first down. Play action on first down could have been a big play. Just a thought. __________________ "Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
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