Bradford or Clausen are there, Trading down?

[Ralphy Boy]

In a thread over in the lounge, this was discussed.

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

A friend of mine who is really big into the 49ers told me his team thinks Claussen reminds them of another good ND QB Montana and they could use their two firsts to get him.

To that I replied with the following:

Our #5 = 1700 pts
our #50 = 400 pts
Total = 2100

Their #13 = 1150
Their # 16 = 1000
Total = 2150

Seems like a fair trade, but then who do we draft?

When looking at what teams, drafting below us, might be interested in either Clausen or Bradford, I came up with very little.
San Fran, Jax, Seattle, Buffalo & Cleveland.
San Fran & Seattle certainly have the ammunition.

St Louis & Washington are both in need, but drafting ahead of us, so I don't see any scenario of both QB's being there.

We won't draft a QB in the first either way.

So finally, what if one of them is there? Who is likely to want either one of them? Who do we draft if we trade down?

[Direckshun]

I bet we'll still field offers if just one of them falls, which WILL happen if Rams go Suh.

We'll actually get LESS offers if both of them fall, because the remaining teams will have a better chance of "their guy" falling.

If Clausen falls to us, we'll get a buffet of offers. If Bradford falls, well. Maybe the Bills?

Of course, I'd just draft Clausen.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I bet we'll still field offers if just one of them falls, which WILL happen if Rams go Suh.

We'll actually get LESS offers if both of them fall, because the remaining teams will have a better chance of "their guy" falling.

If Clausen falls to us, we'll get a buffet of offers. If Bradford falls, well. Maybe the Bills?

Of course, I'd just draft Clausen.

Who would the Bills be bidding against?

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who would the Bills be bidding against?

Seattle, San Fran, Cleveland & Jax.

I would think Seattle would be the most likely player on Bradford.

[DrRyan]

If they traded down to 13 and 16 I would be happy to see any combo of McClain, Mays, Graham or D Williams. Graham and Williams might been "reaches" at those slots but I'd rather go that route than O line.
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[Sfeihc]

One scenario that could unfold;

1. STL-Suh
2 DET-McCoy
3. TB-Berry
4. WAS-Okung
5. Who wants that QB and what will they pay?

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

In a thread over in the lounge, this was discussed.


To that I replied with the following:


When looking at what teams, drafting below us, might be interested in either Clausen or Bradford, I came up with very little.
San Fran, Jax, Seattle, Buffalo & Cleveland.
San Fran & Seattle certainly have the ammunition.

St Louis & Washington are both in need, but drafting ahead of us, so I don't see any scenario of both QB's being there.

We won't draft a QB in the first either way.

So finally, what if one of them is there? Who is likely to want either one of them? Who do we draft if we trade down?

A lot can change from now until April. What would be great is for a team to get infatuated with a QB, and then go all "New Orleans" and give up the farm for him. Make an offer that can't be refused

[Touchdown Bowe]

If Clausen falls to us at 5..we have to take him

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe

If Clausen falls to us at 5..we have to take him

I agree if their is dissension amongst the ranks, I'd definitely pull the trigger. The kid has what it takes, Clausen has a solid physical skill set, leadership intangibles, and is very accurate.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I agree if their is dissension amongst the ranks, I'd definitely pull the trigger. The kid has what it takes, Clausen has a solid physical skill set, leadership intangibles, and is very accurate.

Causen in the first, wr Golden Tate in the second, and OL Sam Young in the 5th.

[Ralphy Boy]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I agree if their is dissension amongst the ranks, I'd definitely pull the trigger. The kid has what it takes, Clausen has a solid physical skill set, leadership intangibles, and is very accurate.

Uh, did you read this?

I grew up in Ojai, California, just up the highway from Clausen's high school alma mater of Oaks Christian in Thousand Oaks, California.

Clausen had a storied high-school career and that's putting it lightly.

He was 42-0 as a prep starter. He led Oaks Christian to their first-ever state title. He threw for 48 touchdowns his senior year. He was USA Today's Offensive Player of the Year.

He was the Golden Boy that everyone wanted.

But ask any parent, student, player, or coach who played with or against Jimmy Clausen, and you'll probably hear the same thing.

Arrogant jerk.

His reputation was awful at any school he played against. He quite simply thought he was better than everyone else and showed it.

He was the beneficiary of a great offensive line and a superb running back named Marc Taylor, who was also rated USA Today's top schoolboy running back.

There were entire games he never got pressured.

Then, there were the whispers that he was just like his father—a Todd Marinovich-fatherly-type who lived and breathed for his son's football career. He had Jimmy under the tutelage of Steve Clarkston, the celebrated "Quarterback Whisperer"—a private coach for parents who can afford to give their kid the best that money can buy.

He was a true freshman starter at Notre Dame.

His first two seasons at Notre Dame were, in truth, fairly mediocre. The Notre Dame teams were awful.

His junior season he finally delivered on his earlier promise. He finished the season with 3,722 yards passing, a 68.8 percent completion rate, 161.42 passer rating, 28 touchdowns, and four interceptions. Notre Dame finished 7-6 his final year.

Look closer at a lot of his games. He made an amazing amount of miscues to lose games in the final minutes, as opposed to say, Joe Montana, who seemed to shine in the fourth quarter.

His record was a pedestrian 16-18 as a starter.

I don't think that was an accident.

From before he stepped onto the field, he rubbed many people, and teammates, the wrong way, from his mega press conference as a high school senior, to his arriving at Notre Dame in a stretch Hummer, to his reputation as a cocky and brash jock.

I'm not sure that inspires anyone within a locker room.

Even his post-game interviews seemed to suggest that it was everyone else who was responsible for Notre Dame's losing ways.

After a close loss to Navy, he was quoted as saying, "Well, I did everything I had to do to win the game."

In other words, my teammates are a bunch of losers.

Ask anyone in San Diego and they'll probably say that Ryan Leaf had all the ability in the world.

It was his attitude that did him in.

Same thing with Jimmy Clausen.

If I were the General Manager of an NFL team, I would avoid Jimmy Clausen like the plague. Never mind a first-round pick; I wouldn't waste a seventh-rounder on the guy.

In fact, I'd make sure he was as far away from my locker room as humanly possible.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Uh, did you read this?

You have no idea who wrote that.

Think about some of the dipshits we have posting here, then re-consider.

Sounds like someone with an ax to grind.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Uh, did you read this?

Considering that there isn't a link to go with it....I consider all of that bullshit from a guy who obviously has never liked Clausen.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Considering that there isn't a link to go with it....I consider all of that bullshit from a guy who obviously has never liked Clausen.

I can't take anyone serious that says he wouldn't use a 7th round pick to take Clausen.

It reads like it's written by someone Clausen played in HS, whipped his ass, is pissed off he doesn't have 0.00001% of the talent Clausen has, and is working at ****ing Burger King.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

Uh, did you read this?

From ESPN.com...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft1...ory?id=4919917

Report: Clausen still recovering

Jimmy Clausen will have to impress teams with his head, not his arm, at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis next week.

During an interview on Sirius NFL Radio, the Notre Dame quarterback said that recovery from surgery to repair tendon damage in his right toe will prevent him from participating in drills.

"I'm planning on doing all the interviews and, obviously, being seen by the doctors so they can see my toe, but my toe isn't ready to go right now," Clausen said, according to NFL.com.

Clausen will have his toe examined on Thursday and could then host a pro day at Notre Dame in April, the Web site reported. The draft is April 22-24 at Radio City Music Hall in New York.

Clausen doesn't see the combine as a waste, even if he can't throw.

"I'm really excited to go down to Indianapolis next week so teams can get to know me as a person," Clausen said, according to NFL.com. "And I think after they get to know me as a person, they'll see the truth from what the perception is out there about me."

Clausen is a 6-foot-3, 223-pound junior who threw for 3,722 yards and 28 touchdowns with only four interceptions for Notre Dame last season.