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Old 04-26-2010, 09:56 AM   Topic Starter
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Scott Pioli one on one with Michael Coleman...

http://www.kctv5.com/video/23264718/

Apologize if re-post, didn't see it.

Also, a look inside the Chiefs draft room video:

http://www.kctv5.com/video/23264414/
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:10 AM   #2
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Thanks for posting! I thought it should be noted that he did recognize the upcoming veterans available now that teams are looking at their teams (hopefully Henderson and others).
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:15 AM   #3
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So, Weis and Crennel weren't in the war room?
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:18 AM   #4
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So, Weis and Crennel weren't in the war room?
That's the way it looked to me.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:45 AM   #5
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That's the way it looked to me.
Not in there. This is not uncommon. Also, the board is set prior to the draft. Not during the draft. So, they have all their input before the board is even set.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:20 AM   #6
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So, Weis and Crennel weren't in the war room?
Weis wouldn't stop stomping his feet, holding his breath and spinning around on the floor because they wouldn't draft Clausen so they kicked him out.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:34 AM   #7
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So, Weis and Crennel weren't in the war room?
Looks like Kiper nailed it.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:38 AM   #8
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Looks like Kiper nailed it.
People keep using the excuse that "even Weis didn't want Clausen, so what does that tell you?"

I think you can throw that one out the window.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:40 AM   #9
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People keep using the excuse that "even Weis didn't want Clausen, so what does that tell you?"

I think you can throw that one out the window.
so you think they never talked about it before the draft?
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:42 AM   #10
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so you think they never talked about it before the draft?
I bet the conversation of IF Clausen fell into the their laps in the second round came up Weis wouldve said go for it.

Pioli cant admit he ****ed up on Cassel is really all it comes down to. Is what it is and now Chiefs fans have to suffer for at least 2 to 3 more years.

Its OK.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:42 AM   #11
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People keep using the excuse that "even Weis didn't want Clausen, so what does that tell you?"

I think you can throw that one out the window.
You'll get people that argue that they talked about prospects before the draft, so they still had input.

Which is MUCH different than being in the room, seeing someone fall that is a huge value pick, and not being able to speak up and say, "Never thought he'd be there, I'd rather have him."
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:42 AM   #12
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So because they weren't in the room means they had no input? That's a pretty steep generalization.
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You'll get people that argue that they talked about prospects before the draft, so they still had input.

Which is MUCH different than being in the room, seeing someone fall that is a huge value pick, and not being able to speak up and say, "Never thought he'd be there, I'd rather have him."
Good timing.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:48 AM   #13
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You'll get people that argue that they talked about prospects before the draft, so they still had input.

Which is MUCH different than being in the room, seeing someone fall that is a huge value pick, and not being able to speak up and say, "Never thought he'd be there, I'd rather have him."
You don't think they prepare for guys falling? Seriously. Do you think that? If nothing else they stack their board so that if there is someone falling, they can TRADE UP and get a player.

Now, the other thing here is, in regards to Clausen and Tate.... Between round 1 and round 2, there was a huge break. Do you think that Weis and Pioli and Crennel didn't chat a little about the draft?

I am sure that Pioli is an egotistical jerk that has to have everything his way... and I am sure that is why Crennel and Weis both came back to work for him despite having other opportunities. That makes so much sense.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:56 AM   #14
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You'll get people that argue that they talked about prospects before the draft, so they still had input.

Which is MUCH different than being in the room, seeing someone fall that is a huge value pick, and not being able to speak up and say, "Never thought he'd be there, I'd rather have him."
At that point it becomes the decision of the HC and GM, not the OC. Weis knew where they had Clausen graded and on their board and priority list. He also would have had an entire evening of post first day draft to give his input. They went into that second day knowing full well that Clausen would likely be there at 2A.

The question is whether Weis looked at it and said "Cassel is not a QB I'm going to be able to do anything with, and Croyle is useless, so let's get Clausen," or "Well, we really need some more explosiveness on offense, and I like this kid McCluster. You get me some offensive tools, and I'll fix your QB issue."

Certainly Weis could have been overruled, but my guess is that in them taking McCluster and moving up to get Moeaki, yet not moving up to get Clausen at 2b, the priority was more along the lines of getting Weis tools to work with on offense rather than another QB...
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:41 AM   #15
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Looks like Kiper nailed it.
So because they weren't in the room means they had no input? That's a pretty steep generalization.
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