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Old 04-30-2012, 07:34 AM   Topic Starter
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Who was "the Steal of the Draft?"
What player did you have an eye on that went way lower than your expectation? Why?
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:38 AM   #2
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Polk and Minnifield going undrafted. Someone will get good value if they sign them as an UDFA.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:40 AM   #3
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Surprised Lamar Miller & Alameda Ta'amu fell to the 4th.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:41 AM   #4
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last year it was houston in the 3rd

not sure this year
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I still think Tauren Poole will be productive for whatever team signs him, like I did with Arian Foster.

I also really like Jayron Hosley at the end of the 3rd to the Giants, Brandon Boykin in the 4th to the Eagles, and Bobby Massie in the 4th to the Cards.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:19 AM   #9
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The steal of the draft - the Redskins and Robert Griffin.

Chief fans are sitting around wondering whether their will be an open competition between Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi. Three months ago their was debate whether the team would pursue Orton. Really? Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi and Orton? That's the best Chief fans can hope for? An open competition between below average career QBs?

All I keep reading about is how KC is never going to finish dead last or with one or two wins, and how they'll never be in position to grab a top QB. Never suck enough for a shot at someone like Stafford. Never suck enough for an elite QB.

Well, this year KC had its chance. The 2nd pick of the draft was open to EVERYONE. Teams were guaranteed not just a chance at, but had a 100% guarantee at taking a consensus blue chip QB prospect. Great arm, great athleticism, no off field concerns, led his team to many victories, played well in big games, accurate, etc. The pick was up for grabs. No more excuses for not having a QB in a pass driven league.

Pioli and Hunt let it slip away. They'd rather use the first round pick on a pure boom/bust prospect and spend the rest of the draft on depth. All the while, the team desperately needs a franchise QB. Pioli gets an F from me on this years draft for not taking that chance, and I look forward to reading next April which average veteran QB will be competing against Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:44 AM   #10
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The steal of the draft - the Redskins and Robert Griffin.

Chief fans are sitting around wondering whether their will be an open competition between Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi. Three months ago their was debate whether the team would pursue Orton. Really? Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi and Orton? That's the best Chief fans can hope for? An open competition between below average career QBs?

All I keep reading about is how KC is never going to finish dead last or with one or two wins, and how they'll never be in position to grab a top QB. Never suck enough for a shot at someone like Stafford. Never suck enough for an elite QB.

Well, this year KC had its chance. The 2nd pick of the draft was open to EVERYONE. Teams were guaranteed not just a chance at, but had a 100% guarantee at taking a consensus blue chip QB prospect. Great arm, great athleticism, no off field concerns, led his team to many victories, played well in big games, accurate, etc. The pick was up for grabs. No more excuses for not having a QB in a pass driven league.

Pioli and Hunt let it slip away. They'd rather use the first round pick on a pure boom/bust prospect and spend the rest of the draft on depth. All the while, the team desperately needs a franchise QB. Pioli gets an F from me on this years draft for not taking that chance, and I look forward to reading next April which average veteran QB will be competing against Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi.
We'll never know if those discussions took place. Personally, if they didn't offer at least 2 first round draft picks, a second rounder and Dwayne Bowe then they dropped the ball.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:03 AM   #11
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The steal of the draft - the Redskins and Robert Griffin.

Chief fans are sitting around wondering whether their will be an open competition between Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi. Three months ago their was debate whether the team would pursue Orton. Really? Cassel, Quinn, Stanzi and Orton? That's the best Chief fans can hope for? An open competition between below average career QBs?

All I keep reading about is how KC is never going to finish dead last or with one or two wins, and how they'll never be in position to grab a top QB. Never suck enough for a shot at someone like Stafford. Never suck enough for an elite QB.

Well, this year KC had its chance. The 2nd pick of the draft was open to EVERYONE. Teams were guaranteed not just a chance at, but had a 100% guarantee at taking a consensus blue chip QB prospect. Great arm, great athleticism, no off field concerns, led his team to many victories, played well in big games, accurate, etc. The pick was up for grabs. No more excuses for not having a QB in a pass driven league.

Pioli and Hunt let it slip away. They'd rather use the first round pick on a pure boom/bust prospect and spend the rest of the draft on depth. All the while, the team desperately needs a franchise QB. Pioli gets an F from me on this years draft for not taking that chance, and I look forward to reading next April which average veteran QB will be competing against Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi.
I agree with this 100%.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:08 AM   #12
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I agree with this 100%.
Except that "the first round pick" would've actually been three first round picks, plus even more as the Rams would've had to fall back further than the 6 spot had they dealt with us.

The Skins paid dearly for the right to move up. In the end, it may be worth it. But giving up 3 first rounders plus a couple of 2nd rounders for 1 player cannot be considered a 'steal'.
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Except that "the first round pick" would've actually been three first round picks, plus even more as the Rams would've had to fall back further than the 6 spot had they dealt with us.

The Skins paid dearly for the right to move up. In the end, it may be worth it. But giving up 3 first rounders plus a couple of 2nd rounders for 1 player cannot be considered a 'steal'.
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Except that "the first round pick" would've actually been three first round picks, plus even more as the Rams would've had to fall back further than the 6 spot had they dealt with us.

The Skins paid dearly for the right to move up. In the end, it may be worth it. But giving up 3 first rounders plus a couple of 2nd rounders for 1 player cannot be considered a 'steal'.
I do not understand the logic behind saying the Skins gave up three first-rounders. Literally, yes. But they received a first-round pick this year, right? Would I give up a first next year and a first in '14 for the right to pick a potential franchise QB? In a heartbeat.

Too bad Pioli doesn't feel the same way. Thus, we're going to have to hope that luck or divine intervention lead the way to a SB in KC.
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I do not understand the logic behind saying the Skins gave up three first-rounders. Literally, yes. But they received a first-round pick this year, right? Would I give up a first next year and a first in '14 for the right to pick a potential franchise QB? In a heartbeat.

Too bad Pioli doesn't feel the same way. Thus, we're going to have to hope that luck or divine intervention lead the way to a SB in KC.
It's an argument worth making. But to call it a 'steal' is absurd.

It would've probably taken our 1st rounder for three seasons as well as our 2nd for 2 of them. Sure - there are worst case scenario arguments (would you give up Jackson, Poe, Dorsey, McCluster and Arenas for RGIII) but there are also best case scenario arguments (Berry, Bowe, Albert, Flowers, Hudson).

I know it's a QB league - but giving up that 2nd group of 5 for RGIII would've been insane. I know the ideologues want to argue that no price is too high for a franchise QB, but that's not true; at least it's not true as it relates to draft picks at QB that have maybe a 75% chance of hitting. Elite QBs are force multipliers in this league, to be sure - but multiplying by zero is still zero. At some point sanity must prevail.

But there's also a chance your package becomes the first group of five, which is why I won't say the Skins got screwed.

In the end - RGIII was not a steal. He was an extremely valuable commodity and the Redskins gave up a shitload to get him.

But that doesn't stop the guys that think they're cute from citing him. Same as the Luck picks - yeah, Luck should totally have gone higher than #1 overall. Total robbery from the Colts.

Whatever; sometimes people just like to think they're clever. Good for them.
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