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Old 04-30-2012, 12:04 PM   #1
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Except that "the first round pick" would've actually been three first round picks, plus even more as the Rams would've had to fall back further than the 6 spot had they dealt with us.

The Skins paid dearly for the right to move up. In the end, it may be worth it. But giving up 3 first rounders plus a couple of 2nd rounders for 1 player cannot be considered a 'steal'.
I do not understand the logic behind saying the Skins gave up three first-rounders. Literally, yes. But they received a first-round pick this year, right? Would I give up a first next year and a first in '14 for the right to pick a potential franchise QB? In a heartbeat.

Too bad Pioli doesn't feel the same way. Thus, we're going to have to hope that luck or divine intervention lead the way to a SB in KC.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:10 PM   #2
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I do not understand the logic behind saying the Skins gave up three first-rounders. Literally, yes. But they received a first-round pick this year, right? Would I give up a first next year and a first in '14 for the right to pick a potential franchise QB? In a heartbeat.

Too bad Pioli doesn't feel the same way. Thus, we're going to have to hope that luck or divine intervention lead the way to a SB in KC.
It's an argument worth making. But to call it a 'steal' is absurd.

It would've probably taken our 1st rounder for three seasons as well as our 2nd for 2 of them. Sure - there are worst case scenario arguments (would you give up Jackson, Poe, Dorsey, McCluster and Arenas for RGIII) but there are also best case scenario arguments (Berry, Bowe, Albert, Flowers, Hudson).

I know it's a QB league - but giving up that 2nd group of 5 for RGIII would've been insane. I know the ideologues want to argue that no price is too high for a franchise QB, but that's not true; at least it's not true as it relates to draft picks at QB that have maybe a 75% chance of hitting. Elite QBs are force multipliers in this league, to be sure - but multiplying by zero is still zero. At some point sanity must prevail.

But there's also a chance your package becomes the first group of five, which is why I won't say the Skins got screwed.

In the end - RGIII was not a steal. He was an extremely valuable commodity and the Redskins gave up a shitload to get him.

But that doesn't stop the guys that think they're cute from citing him. Same as the Luck picks - yeah, Luck should totally have gone higher than #1 overall. Total robbery from the Colts.

Whatever; sometimes people just like to think they're clever. Good for them.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #3
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It's an argument worth making. But to call it a 'steal' is absurd.

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How many times can a team trade up into the top 2 to get a blue chip franchise QB?
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