Random Thoughts on the Broncos Game

[Direckshun]

I re-watch games throughout the week and found that starting a thread and discussing any number of random things I notice is enjoyable both for me and some folks.

If you'd rather not re-live this game, I suggest you put this thread on a very civil ignore.

Sorry about last week and the Raiders thread. As I mentioned, I had to get myself right after confronting some stuff in the family. This week, I should be fine.

On with the show.

[Direckshun]

Before the kickoff, a Broncos fan in the stands has a #BerryStrong poster out there.

I've always had mad respect for Broncos fans. It's easier to be a great fan when your franchise is awesome, but still it's a very thoughtful thing that the fan didn't have to do.

[Direckshun]

Pretty hysterical this game was a match of the Chiefs' current kicker Cairo Santos against a Chiefs reject Connor Barth. Neither kicker can reliably kick it deep, and I don't know if either hit the end zone once on a kickoff.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Pretty hysterical this game was a match of the Chiefs' current kicker Cairo Santos against a Chiefs reject Connor Barth. Neither kicker can reliably kick it deep, and I don't know if either hit the end zone once on a kickoff.

Barth did and I believe Santos did once or twice when he had someone holding the ball for him.

[MIAdragon]

Have not looked at the stats but I wonder if short kicking it and allowing a return results in poorer field position than simply taking a touch back.

[Easy 6]

This game sliced a nice fat piece of optimism right out of me, not only the losing but HOW they lost... it was worse than the Indy game in many ways IMO.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

This game sliced a nice fat piece of optimism right out of me, not only the losing but HOW they lost... it was worse than the Indy game in many ways IMO.

Yep. They were completely dominated and out coached. No doubt who the better team was/is. The game was not as "close" as the score indicates.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. They were completely dominated and out coached. No doubt who the better team was/is. The game was not as "close" as the score indicates.

Reid and co. took a huge hit in my book with this one... I can understand the dynamics behind the Raider loss more than this abortion.

The offensive talent disparity is one thing, but the gameplan was just sooo uninspired and it was poorly executed at that... after a mini-bye.

No extensive shifts, motioning or other trickery like in the past, two of our three most explosive players mostly rode the bench, throwing it around while Davis and DAT sat, while Charles was virtually ignored again .. it was sad.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Reid and co. took a huge hit in my book with this one... I can understand the dynamics behind the Raider loss more than this abortion.

The offensive talent disparity is one thing, but the gameplan was just sooo uninspired and it was poorly executed at that... after a mini-bye.

No extensive shifts, motioning or other trickery like in the past, two of our three most explosive players mostly rode the bench, throwing it around while Davis and DAT sat, while Charles was virtually ignored again .. it was sad.

Exactly - The game plan allowed Denver to basically do the SAME thing (blitz and run blitz) all game long. You're also spot on with your assessment of the completely motion free offense and of the lack of personnel used - Just mind boggling that Knile Davis was NOWHERE to be found. especially when you consider that he had a great deal of success week 2 in Denver. The offense was so stale, I thought I was watching a Herm Edwards game plan.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Way worse than the Indy game, IMO. We got way up in the Indy game, tons of people, a freakish 1:1,000,000 amount, got hurt. It was a destiny/luck thing.

Last Sunday night was a schooling on a quality team versus a team masking a lot of chronic problems. We do have a lot of people hurt, but a lot of the big impact people we're missing have been gone a while and it appeared that we had adapted.

Indy was 'this just wasn't your day'
Denver was 'you don't belong here.'

That's why I'm tired of hearing about the injuries, pretty much every team takes big injury hits and the good ones don't let it keep them down for long... Denver didn't have Talib or their bigshot tight end.

We have a deeper team than last year that's now well into its second year in this system, there just isnt any viable excuse to look the way they did in this game.

Originally Posted by TEX

Exactly - The game plan allowed Denver to basically do the SAME thing (blitz and run blitz) all game long. You're also spot on with your assessment of the completely motion free offense and of the lack of personnel used - Just mind boggling that Knile Davis was NOWHERE to be found. especially when you consider that he had a great deal of success week 2 in Denver. The offense was so stale, I thought I was watching a Herm Edwards game plan.

Charles, Davis and Thomas... three of our four most explosive players were barely involved in the gameplan, it was an absolute abortion, very Herm/Solari-like indeed.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

This game sliced a nice fat piece of optimism right out of me, not only the losing but HOW they lost... it was worse than the Indy game in many ways IMO.

Way worse than the Indy game, IMO. We got way up in the Indy game, tons of people, a freakish 1:1,000,000 amount, got hurt. It was a destiny/luck thing.

Last Sunday night was a schooling on a quality team versus a team masking a lot of chronic problems. We do have a lot of people hurt, but a lot of the big impact people we're missing have been gone a while and it appeared that we had adapted.

Indy was 'this just wasn't your day'
Denver was 'you don't belong here.'

[Direckshun]

First play out of the gate by Andy Reid:

Avery and De'Anthony Thomas out wide, with Bowe in the slot. Smith in shotgun with Charles staggered behind him, and Fasano in-line with Fisher.

De'Anthony motions across on a fake jet sweep, Smith fakes the handoff the Charles. Two handoffs to our speedsters, hoping to suck Denver in.

Denver doesn't suck in, at all. Only the four down-lineman are at the LOS, everybody else has dropped into coverage. Alex Smith then unloads for Avery, which is what the play was designed to do from the start.

Possibly the worst throw of Alex Smith's career, however. Holy shit. A 30-yard throw that lands so far away from whereever Avery is that there's no chance to make a play.

Crazy thing is, Avery was in single coverage and was running on the numbers. He had a sideline he could work with. But Smith elects to go inside with the pass, and it's dramatically out of Avery's reach.

Edit: Noted -- Fasano blocked Ware on the play, Fisher down-blocked on the tackle trying to sell the defense on a runplay for Charles.

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

First play out of the gate by Andy Reid:

Avery and De'Anthony Thomas out wide, with Bowe in the slot. Smith in shotgun with Charles staggered behind him, and Fasano in-line with Fisher.

De'Anthony motions across on a fake jet sweep, Smith fakes the handoff the Charles. Two handoffs to our speedsters, hoping to suck Denver in.

Denver doesn't suck in, at all. Only the four down-lineman are at the LOS, everybody else has dropped into coverage. Alex Smith then unloads for Avery, which is what the play was designed to do from the start.

Possibly the worst throw of Alex Smith's career, however. Holy shit. A 30-yard throw that lands so far away from whereever Avery is that there's no chance to make a play.

Crazy thing is, Avery was in single coverage and was running on the numbers. He had a sideline he could work with. But Smith elects to go inside with the pass, and it's dramatically out of Avery's reach.

Edit: Noted -- Fasano blocked Ware on the play, Fisher down-blocked on the tackle trying to sell the defense on a runplay for Charles.

designed deep post. Could you see how the safeties were aligned pre-snap, and if they rolled? I saw one safety & the corner trailing avery near where the pass landed. Either way he couldn't get behind anyone.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

designed deep post. Could you see how the safeties were aligned pre-snap, and if they rolled? I saw one safety & the corner trailing avery near where the pass landed. Either way he couldn't get behind anyone.

I didn't look like Avery beat anybody, but he did have a ton of sideline to work with if Alex took the shot there.

Instead, Smith inexplicably went inside.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

designed deep post. Could you see how the safeties were aligned pre-snap, and if they rolled? I saw one safety & the corner trailing avery near where the pass landed. Either way he couldn't get behind anyone.