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Old 12-03-2014, 10:12 AM  
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Random Thoughts on the Broncos Game

I re-watch games throughout the week and found that starting a thread and discussing any number of random things I notice is enjoyable both for me and some folks.

If you'd rather not re-live this game, I suggest you put this thread on a very civil ignore.

Sorry about last week and the Raiders thread. As I mentioned, I had to get myself right after confronting some stuff in the family. This week, I should be fine.

On with the show.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:36 AM   #16
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You forgot to mention the horrendous attempt at a cut block.
You're not wrong.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:38 AM   #17
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First play out of the gate by Andy Reid:

Avery and De'Anthony Thomas out wide, with Bowe in the slot. Smith in shotgun with Charles staggered behind him, and Fasano in-line with Fisher.

De'Anthony motions across on a fake jet sweep, Smith fakes the handoff the Charles. Two handoffs to our speedsters, hoping to suck Denver in.

Denver doesn't suck in, at all. Only the four down-lineman are at the LOS, everybody else has dropped into coverage. Alex Smith then unloads for Avery, which is what the play was designed to do from the start.

Possibly the worst throw of Alex Smith's career, however. Holy shit. A 30-yard throw that lands so far away from whereever Avery is that there's no chance to make a play.

Crazy thing is, Avery was in single coverage and was running on the numbers. He had a sideline he could work with. But Smith elects to go inside with the pass, and it's dramatically out of Avery's reach.

Edit: Noted -- Fasano blocked Ware on the play, Fisher down-blocked on the tackle trying to sell the defense on a runplay for Charles.
designed deep post. Could you see how the safeties were aligned pre-snap, and if they rolled? I saw one safety & the corner trailing avery near where the pass landed. Either way he couldn't get behind anyone.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:41 AM   #18
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2nd and four, same down linemen for the Chiefs. Same personnel everywhere, except now Mauga and JMJ have switched sides.

CJ Anderson with a huge run off the LT right through where Allen Bailey is supposed to be.

Orlando Franklin at RG erases Bailey from the play, totally isolating him inside. Hali and JMJ -- who are both playing that side -- are erased. Hali gets pushed way outside by Clady. JMJ actually starts the play standing at the LOS, but can't shed an OL to save his life. Abdullah is actually in the box on the play, and steps out wide, but CJ one-cuts it inside for a huge gain and a first down.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:42 AM   #19
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designed deep post. Could you see how the safeties were aligned pre-snap, and if they rolled? I saw one safety & the corner trailing avery near where the pass landed. Either way he couldn't get behind anyone.
I didn't look like Avery beat anybody, but he did have a ton of sideline to work with if Alex took the shot there.

Instead, Smith inexplicably went inside.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:44 AM   #20
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:45 AM   #21
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New 1st and ten, same personnel for the Chiefs everywhere.

Broncos attempt running Anderson again off tackle, but perfect gap integrity foils them.

Most importantly, Hali stays on the outside, never letting Clady get outside of him and allowing Anderson to turn the corner. This stalls Anderson.

Trying to get to the outside of Bailey actually plays into his strengths. Bailey sheds one OL and blows up another trying to get to Anderson, who is turning in thanks to Hali's work on the edge.

Mauga swoops in and bats clean-up. Maybe a 2 yard gain.

Edit: Actually Mauga swoops in and absorbs another blocker. It's actually 330-lb Dontari Poe who gets all the way out to the numbers and shuts Anderson down.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:46 AM   #22
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:49 AM   #23
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Chiefs staying with the same personnel, and shut down Anderson again.

This time the Broncos try to run behind their RG, right at Jaye Howard.

Howard beasts. He's doubled at the point of attack, stacks up both blockers and secures the tackle.

He's flanked by good plays, too. Houston contains on the outside, and Poe blasts through the OL.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:52 AM   #24
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This game sliced a nice fat piece of optimism right out of me, not only the losing but HOW they lost... it was worse than the Indy game in many ways IMO.
Way worse than the Indy game, IMO. We got way up in the Indy game, tons of people, a freakish 1:1,000,000 amount, got hurt. It was a destiny/luck thing.

Last Sunday night was a schooling on a quality team versus a team masking a lot of chronic problems. We do have a lot of people hurt, but a lot of the big impact people we're missing have been gone a while and it appeared that we had adapted.

Indy was 'this just wasn't your day'
Denver was 'you don't belong here.'
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:54 AM   #25
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3rd and six. One of many in the 1st half where they simply couldn't get Manning off the field.

Chiefs in dime. Poe and Bailey down, Hali and Houston on the edge, Mauga and Abdullah as your LBs. Parker and Coleman playing what looks like a cover 2.

Sean Smith has Demaryius Thomas covered fine on the outside, but the Broncos run a good looking criss-cross route -- Sanders starts off the LT and cuts across the middle, and Anderson comes out of the backfield off RT and cuts the other way.

The weird thing is the Chiefs never attempt to line up anybody across from Sanders. Mauga draws the assignment and fails to keep up with him across the field. Abdullah flinches to the inside with Anderson but then sees the pass and is too late to get there.

Sanders catches the ball in stride with both defenders trailing. Big gain.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:57 AM   #26
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Anderson up the gut against on the Chiefs' dime defense. Poe is doubled and Bailey is blocked to the side. Mauga fills the gap but an OL smothers him and erases him. Abdullah is in the mix, but isn't a factor. Anderson bursts through for 8 yards.
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Chiefs back out in base defense. Broncos attempt to run Anderson off LT, but Anderson is blown up right off the hand off.

The 6th OL doesn't get across the line to Hali fast enough. Hali swallows up Anderson. Howard gets crazy penetration and also gets there in a hurry.

Even Allen Bailey stalls up the OL he's facing.
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Reid and co. took a huge hit in my book with this one... I can understand the dynamics behind the Raider loss more than this abortion.

The offensive talent disparity is one thing, but the gameplan was just sooo uninspired and it was poorly executed at that... after a mini-bye.

No extensive shifts, motioning or other trickery like in the past, two of our three most explosive players mostly rode the bench, throwing it around while Davis and DAT sat, while Charles was virtually ignored again .. it was sad.
Exactly - The game plan allowed Denver to basically do the SAME thing (blitz and run blitz) all game long. You're also spot on with your assessment of the completely motion free offense and of the lack of personnel used - Just mind boggling that Knile Davis was NOWHERE to be found. especially when you consider that he had a great deal of success week 2 in Denver. The offense was so stale, I thought I was watching a Herm Edwards game plan.
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Another 3rd down, this time 3rd and 5.

Sean Smith and Chris Owens cheat in on the WRs at the last second before the snap. Manning freaks and calls TO. Looks like he was eyeing Demaryius really hard before Smith showed press man at the last second.
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Actually play for 3rd and 5:

Thomas on a go route out of the slot on Sean Smith. It looks like Parker choked up to take away Sanders who was coming WIDE OPEN across the middle for a second time. The second Parker took a step forward, Smith had no help over the top and Manning lobs a TD pass to him.
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