Vailpass, 45-7 ???

[ISUJeff]

Wasn't that your predicted score for today? Sorry, we only scored half that.

I do still think Iowa will have a very good team this year, and hope the best for them, but how 'bout you show a little respect as well.

Ease up on the arrogance for your team and the premature disrespect of your opponent.

Yeah. I'm a Hawkeye fan and knew better than to run my pie hole last week. Much respect to clones today. They dismantled Iowa. Even with the starting QB. Made no difference. What an embarrassment for the Big Ten today. Over-rated.

[ISUJeff]

Thanks, not trying to run my mouth, just would like to see a little more respect.


Regardless, let's beat the Jets tomorrow.

[htismaqe]

I posted this in another forum but I think it's appropriate here:

1) Iowa always takes the ball when they win the toss. The wind was blowing over 30mph and they took the ball. They started their first 8 or so drives inside their own 30, including one at the 1. Conversely, ISU spent 90% of the first half inside Iowa territory. Field position is killer in a defensive game like that, and the wind made it worse.

2) Tate is a fierce competitor, no doubt about it. But he's GOT to know when not to take on a defensive player helmet-to-helmet. He put himself in harm's way and it wasn't smart.

3) Iowa looked like they didn't care about this game (again) whereas ISU was hyped up from the start (again). I know Iowa won 15 in a row during Hayden's time here, but dammit, it's time to start treating this like a rivalry again. ISU has won 6 of 8, it's time for the Hawkeyes to stop looking down their noses at them.

I'm bummed because everybody going in was worried about Iowa's defensive line and running game. At the end of the 3rd quarter, Iowa had almost 180 yards rushing while ISU had 80 on 33 carries. There's no excuse for losing this game...

After thinking about it last night, I'm pretty pissed that Iowa doesn't seem to take this game nearly as seriously as Iowa State. I almost feel like the Hawkeyes came out arrogant yesterday, and when you've lost 6 out of 8, there's no room for it...

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I posted this in another forum but I think it's appropriate here:

1) Iowa always takes the ball when they win the toss. The wind was blowing over 30mph and they took the ball. They started their first 8 or so drives inside their own 30, including one at the 1. Conversely, ISU spent 90% of the first half inside Iowa territory. Field position is killer in a defensive game like that, and the wind made it worse.

2) Tate is a fierce competitor, no doubt about it. But he's GOT to know when not to take on a defensive player helmet-to-helmet. He put himself in harm's way and it wasn't smart.

3) Iowa looked like they didn't care about this game (again) whereas ISU was hyped up from the start (again). I know Iowa won 15 in a row during Hayden's time here, but dammit, it's time to start treating this like a rivalry again. ISU has won 6 of 8, it's time for the Hawkeyes to stop looking down their noses at them.

I'm bummed because everybody going in was worried about Iowa's defensive line and running game. At the end of the 3rd quarter, Iowa had almost 180 yards rushing while ISU had 80 on 33 carries. There's no excuse for losing this game...

After thinking about it last night, I'm pretty pissed that Iowa doesn't seem to take this game nearly as seriously as Iowa State. I almost feel like the Hawkeyes came out arrogant yesterday, and when you've lost 6 out of 8, there's no room for it...

So ISU won because Iowa didn't take them seriously.

This post truely reflects why Iowa fans are always perceived as arrogant.

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Frankie

So ISU won because Iowa didn't take them seriously.

This post truely reflects why Iowa fans are always perceived as arrogant.

Iowa was supposed to win because Iowa has the more talented team. Iowa St. just wanted it more. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by alanm

Iowa was supposed to win because Iowa has the more talented team. Iowa St. just wanted it more. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

The weaker team winning by wanting it more usually results in a win by a few points. This was a 20 point win. And also may I remind you that Meyer overthrew his WR who had beaten the Iowa DB on his way to the endzone....TWICE! This game could have been a much more humiliating loss for the Hawks. Why can't you Hawk fans be graceful when you lose? That's the ARROGANCE I'm talking about.

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Frankie

The weaker team winning by wanting it more usually results in a win by a few points. This was a 20 point win. And also may I remind you that Meyer overthrew his WR who had beaten the Iowa DB on his way to the endzone....TWICE! This game could have been a much more humiliating loss for the Hawks. Why can't you Hawk fans be graceful when you lose? That's the ARROGANCE I'm talking about.

Frankie, I'm a Husker fan. I can be objective. Iowa came out totally unprepared to play yesterday. And they got there butts whipped. But Iowa should have beat the snot out of them.

Originally Posted by Frankie

So ISU won because Iowa didn't take them seriously.

This post truely reflects why Iowa fans are always perceived as arrogant.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...58&postcount=2

I'll even take it one further by saying the loss of Tate made no difference. State had rendered him ineffective BEFORE the injury.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Phobia

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...58&postcount=2

I'll even take it one further by saying the loss of Tate made no difference. State had rendered him ineffective BEFORE the injury.

Frankie was talking to me. He obviously was looking for any reason to call Hawk fans arrogant.

The Clones did a good job of flat-out neutralizing the passing game, Tate or no Tate.

What I don't understand is why Iowa didn't exploit further the obvious mismatches they had in the running game.

And where was the jailbreak screen? The offense looked very vanilla on Saturday.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Frankie was talking to me. He obviously was looking for any reason to call Hawk fans arrogant.

The Clones did a good job of flat-out neutralizing the passing game, Tate or no Tate.

What I don't understand is why Iowa didn't exploit further the obvious mismatches they had in the running game.

And where was the jailbreak screen? The offense looked very vanilla on Saturday.

I didn't know Phobia was a Hawks fan. I missed his post. But he is an exception. Iowa State fans always regard the fans of two schools as historically arrogant and condescending: Iowa and Nebraska. That's why beating those two schools are always sweetest to us.

[ArrowheadHawk]

how bout the big 10

[alanm]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

how bout the big 10

I guess now all the national media will go back to polishing the SEC's knob. Them and Notre Dame. And I'm still not convinced that Notre Dame is all that good.

[ArrowheadHawk]

they should jump on the big 12 bandwagon the big 12 is 19-3

[alanm]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

they should jump on the big 12 bandwagon the big 12 is 19-3

They may be 19-3 but that's a REALLY shaky 19-3. With Texas being the leader at the moment. Oklahoma has problems at QB and defense. Nebraska's offense is still a work in progress, but they have a solid D. Iowa St played inspired ball yesterday but who knows how good they are. Kansas St. has been lucky. Missouri is Jekyl/Hyde. Colorado hasn't played anyone. I thought Colo. St. was decent but they lost again yesterday so I'm not as impressed by Colorado's win against them last week. Kansas hasn't raised any eyebrows. Texas Tech could be very good. But they've played patsies too. Hell Baylor even won. I haven't seen A&M. yet With the exception of Texas no team has really stood out We'll see how it shakes out I guess.