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Old 01-17-2009, 07:58 PM   Topic Starter
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Whose fault is Tamba Hali?
Are the coaches to blame for Hali's drop off in numbers? His first two seasons he had 8 and 7.5 sacks. This season he only had 3. Is it not the same three coaches (Edwards, Gunther, Krumrie) coaching him throughout his career?

Why all of a sudden do his sack numbers drop so significantly?

Is it Hali himself who isn't motivated? What happened to Herm's motivational skills?

Is Hali a 1st round bust just like Ryan Sims who's lack of talent was hidden by Jared Allen's great play?

Are the coaches to blame for his 3 sacks this season or is Hali?
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:00 PM   #2
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He should never have been moved to RE.

He's not a bust he can be a complementary player on a defense that has a great pass rusher.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:01 PM   #3
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He should never have been moved to RE.

He's not a bust he can be a complementary player on a defense that has a great pass rusher.
Yep. He's definitely not a playmaker by himself like Jared Allen was
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:12 PM   #4
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He should never have been moved to RE.

He's not a bust he can be a complementary player on a defense that has a great pass rusher.
I think you can't label him as a bust... but he's still underperformed by a lot.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:00 PM   #5
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I'm not sure what a coach can do for him..

He's a physically maxed out player that was pretty polished the day he was drafted, a guy like that isn't going to get a whole lot better. When the league starts figuring him out he has to find another way to make plays because he doesn't have the pure talent to just beat a guy.

When you have all the moves and techniques down but don't have great talent this is what happens...you can't just teach a guy to grow more talent.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:02 PM   #6
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he doesn't have the pure talent to just beat a guy.
I disagree. His first two years he was beating right tackles around the edge consistently. Hell, if he had wrapped up the quarterback in 2007 he would have had 14 sacks.
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I disagree. His first two years he was beating right tackles around the edge consistently. Hell, if he had wrapped up the quarterback in 2007 he would have had 14 sacks.
And now we're to this point where the league starts to figure a guy out...Hali was what he was on draft day, his best year in the league was his 1st year...that speaks to a guy who's maxed out coaching isn't going to help him.

He'll either remain what he is or get worse.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:31 PM   #8
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I'm not sure what a coach can do for him..

He's a physically maxed out player that was pretty polished the day he was drafted, a guy like that isn't going to get a whole lot better. When the league starts figuring him out he has to find another way to make plays because he doesn't have the pure talent to just beat a guy.

When you have all the moves and techniques down but don't have great talent this is what happens...you can't just teach a guy to grow more talent.
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When you have all the moves and techniques down
I've seen no evidence that Hali has all the moves and techniques down.
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I've seen no evidence that Hali has all the moves and techniques down.
Well he isn't beating anyone by being a physical freak...

Vermiel had bad drafts but the Hali, Pollard etc draft wasn't an improvement.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:00 PM   #11
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I dont think he's a star or will ever be or intended to be, but he has been hurt lately. I think he's going to suffer from the Carlos Hall syndrome with his knee's.

Anyways, they took a shot and it didnt work out. Not to mention them trying to put him in JA's spot.
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Tamba Hali is Tamba Hali's fault, I'm guessing.
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:40 AM   #13
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Tamba Hali is Tamba Hali's fault, I'm guessing.
I'm betting he was his parents fault.
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:02 PM   #14
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Tamba Hali's parents are the ones to blame.....he tries hard he just doesn't have the natural talent to make it work.

You can blame the Chiefs for taking a player like that in the 1st round.
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Hali will bounce back.
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