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Old 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM   Topic Starter
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Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick?
Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:00 PM   #2
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Hes the type of player you pick when you like to "play it safe"


Peterson would have picked him.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:03 PM   #3
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Hes the type of player you pick when you like to "play it safe"


Peterson would have picked him.
Lucky for us that douchebag is no longer here.

I will put my full faith and trust in Pioli come draft time and as long as he doesn't pick a punter or kicker with the 3rd pick I will probably be happy.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:58 PM   #4
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Hes the type of player you pick when you like to "play it safe"


Peterson would have picked him.
OK, Safe does not mean bad or incapeable of growth. It just means a guy has performed and you know a certain amount of info about a guy that you know you get. People use "safe" like a curse word around here. So "unsafe" is better? A guy who hasnt lived up to his "potential" for some reason is better? I think potential is a much bigger curse word. It means you arent getting it done yet and you need to step it up. Hard workers with a solid skill set are "safe" because they're already getting it done and moving in the right direction.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:00 PM   #5
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OK, Safe does not mean bad or incapeable of growth. It just means a guy has performed and you know a certain amount of info about a guy that you know you get. People use "safe" like a curse word around here. So "unsafe" is better? A guy who hasnt lived up to his "potential" for some reason is better? I think potential is a much bigger curse word. It means you arent getting it done yet and you need to step it up. Hard workers with a solid skill set are "safe" because they're already getting it done and moving in the right direction.
He's a LB...

You could literally go sign a guy for half the price.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:13 PM   #6
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He's a LB...

You could literally go sign a guy for half the price.
Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:15 PM   #7
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Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.
The CB position is more valuable than the LB position....
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:19 PM   #8
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Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.
Curry played in the ACC.

'Nuff said.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:20 PM   #9
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Who said Curry was the perfect prospect...

Its just a mindset in the fanbase... Some want defense and 9-7, others want a QB and a chance to win a superbowl...
I'm not sure how you think it's as cut and dried as that... you can't win without a solid team on both sides of the ball, and you don't have to look any further than our own teams in the last 20 years (Marty's D in the 90s or Vermiel's Offense). Obviously a franchise QB is an important piece of the puzzle, but this single-minded QB Kool-Aid that has you thinking the Chiefs will be SB bound once they draft one is as bad as the "True Fan" nonsense.

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Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.
Is there anyone else in the draft with Curry's skill set? I've heard talk that this year's draft is full of rush backers, so if we're in a 3-4 and Curry is the only guy around that can do what he does, is his value increased as a result?
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You could go sign LeRoy Hill for probably a 4th of the price....

His position just doesn't warrant it.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:04 PM   #11
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He's a complete player, but other than some of the national talking heads, I don't know many advocating going after Curry. I don't think you have to worry about us drafting him.
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There have only been 4 LB's go Top 5 in the past 15 years, and none of them were, or in the case of Hawk, are worth their draft slot.

I'm not doubting Curry's talent, but it's not Top 5 talent we're talking about.

To be a Top 5 LB, you better be a Singletary/Lewis clone in the middle, or a Derrick Thomas/Lawrence Taylor type disruptive force on the outside.

Curry hasn't shown that he excels at either - but that he's a well rounded, athletic guy.

That makes him a 8-15 guy, IMO. Top 5 is ridiculous, and Top 3 is career suicide for a GM.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:08 PM   #13
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There have only been 4 LB's go Top 5 in the past 15 years, and none of them were, or in the case of Hawk, are worth their draft slot.

I'm not doubting Curry's talent, but it's not Top 5 talent we're talking about.

To be a Top 5 LB, you better be a Singletary/Lewis clone in the middle, or a Derrick Thomas/Lawrence Taylor type disruptive force on the outside.

Curry hasn't shown that he excels at either - but that he's a well rounded, athletic guy.

That makes him a 8-15 guy, IMO. Top 5 is ridiculous, and Top 3 is career suicide for a GM.
Ernie Sims, Keith Rivers, guys like that are good comparisons for Curry and well none of them went top 5.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:17 PM   #14
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To be a Top 5 LB, you better be a Singletary/Lewis clone in the middle, or a Derrick Thomas/Lawrence Taylor type disruptive force on the outside.

Curry hasn't shown that he excels at either - but that he's a well rounded, athletic guy.

That makes him a 8-15 guy, IMO. Top 5 is ridiculous, and Top 3 is career suicide for a GM.
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What positions justify #3 money? QB? OT? What else?

Seems like we're going to have to pay #3 money no matter what.. so we need to go BPO regardless of position.
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