Chiefs Cassel - yards per pass attempt.

Chiefnj2 · 10-06-2009, 10:50 AM

Per Greg Easterbrook TMQ: "Matt Cassel, who recently signed one of the richest contracts in football history, averaged 2.4 yards per pass attempt on 32 throws."

Wow, that's horrible. If a receiver were to catch a ball on the LOS and just fall down (body extended) they'd pick up 2 yards. Haley might want to work on longer pass patterns.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-06-2009, 10:52 AM

Cassel is too dependent on the WRs to get YAC.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-06-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Cassel is too dependent on the WRs to get YAC.

~~Unfortunately, no one brought this up as a concern in the offseason. How were we to know?~~

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-06-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

~~Unfortunately, no one brought this up as a concern in the offseason. How were we to know?~~

LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Hootie · 10-06-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

~~Unfortunately, no one brought this up as a concern in the offseason. How were we to know?~~

here come the know-it-alls

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-06-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

here come the know-it-alls

Oh no, someone is going to interrupt my brunch of ignorance, because if I hope that the Chiefs are good, and just implicitly trust people who are in the organization because they're Chiefs, somehow, they'll be good.

It's no one's fault but your own that you're a ****ing idiot. Remember that.

htismaqe · 10-06-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh no, someone is going to interrupt my brunch of ignorance, because if I hope that the Chiefs are good, and just implicitly trust people who are in the organization because they're Chiefs, somehow, they'll be good.

It's no one's fault but your own that you're a ****ing idiot. Remember that.

Having hope does not implicitly make one an idiot. Remember that.

Demonpenz · 10-06-2009, 10:52 AM

yikes. did you see sanchez's YPA? and Much younger than castle

kstater · 10-06-2009, 10:53 AM

Cassel is way too dependent on his line holding up long enough for his receivers to run more than a couple yards. He needs to step up into the pocket and throw it longer.

talastan · 10-06-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Cassel is way too dependent on his line holding up long enough for his receivers to run more than a couple yards. He needs to step up into the pocket and throw it longer.

What pocket? Rudy gets blown off the line almost every play and it is kinda hard to step up in pocket when your center is already there.

**notorious** · 10-06-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan

What pocket? Rudy gets blown off the line almost every play and it is kinda hard to step up in pocket when your center is already there.

This.

I was thinking bootlegs would help this situation out. You want to take a guess at who had bootlegs as part of his offense..........our Ex-offensive coordinator.

BigChiefFan · 10-06-2009, 10:55 AM

It's been awful. I would almost suggest going long on a few plays, whether or not the reciever can get open or not, at this point doesn't matter. Throw it out of bounds, 30 yards down the field a few times. Play-action, more. Mix it up. Get the FB involved in the run game. We have to spread the field.

FAX · 10-06-2009, 10:58 AM

Haley needs to work on Cassel's reverse speed. Then, we can use the 42 step drop to our advantage.

FAX

JD10367 · 10-06-2009, 10:59 AM

Passing yardage is an interesting and difficult discussion.

First of all, I've never liked how the NFL does it. If Peyton Manning throws a 2-yard pass and the guy then runs for 50 yards, Manning gets credited with a 52-yard pass.

Second, as pointed out, you also have to factor in the receivers and their abilities to get YAC, as well as the play calls.

For example, in this past game, I noticed a lot of instances where the situation might be, say, 3rd-and-7, and Cassel threw a 2-yard pass and the guy got slammed to the ground, resulting in 4th-and-5 and a punt. Now, was that Haley and the coaches' fault, because that was the play call? Was it the receiver's fault, for running too short of a route? Was it Cassel's fault, for not finding the downfield option and checking down too soon to a guy who Cassel should've known was well short of the 1st-down marker? Was it the fault of the O-line or TE or other players, who didn't follow the play and provide downfield blocking?

When we watch on TV, it's hard to get a true feel for who was at fault for a particular f**kup. Another good example is how you'll see a long pass to a wide-open WR downfield, without a defensive player within 5 yards, and you automatically assume the CB blew the coverage... but sometmies, what you didn't see (or know) was that the CB was supposed to get over-the-top help from the S who blew HIS assignment.

bobbything · 10-06-2009, 01:20 PM

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For example, in this past game, I noticed a lot of instances where the situation might be, say, 3rd-and-7, and Cassel threw a 2-yard pass and the guy got slammed to the ground, resulting in 4th-and-5 and a punt. Now, was that Haley and the coaches' fault, because that was the play call? Was it the receiver's fault, for running too short of a route? Was it Cassel's fault, for not finding the downfield option and checking down too soon to a guy who Cassel should've known was well short of the 1st-down marker? Was it the fault of the O-line or TE or other players, who didn't follow the play and provide downfield blocking?

Yes.

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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Passing yardage is an interesting and difficult discussion. First of all, I've never liked how the NFL does it. If Peyton Manning throws a 2-yard pass and the guy then runs for 50 yards, Manning gets credited with a 52-yard pass. Second, as pointed out, you also have to factor in the receivers and their abilities to get YAC, as well as the play calls. For example, in this past game, I noticed a lot of instances where the situation might be, say, 3rd-and-7, and Cassel threw a 2-yard pass and the guy got slammed to the ground, resulting in 4th-and-5 and a punt. Now, was that Haley and the coaches' fault, because that was the play call? Was it the receiver's fault, for running too short of a route? Was it Cassel's fault, for not finding the downfield option and checking down too soon to a guy who Cassel should've known was well short of the 1st-down marker? Was it the fault of the O-line or TE or other players, who didn't follow the play and provide downfield blocking? When we watch on TV, it's hard to get a true feel for who was at fault for a particular f**kup. Another good example is how you'll see a long pass to a wide-open WR downfield, without a defensive player within 5 yards, and you automatically assume the CB blew the coverage... but sometmies, what you didn't see (or know) was that the CB was supposed to get over-the-top help from the S who blew HIS assignment.
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