Football 2009 Broncos = the 2003 Chiefs

**Shaid** · 10-20-2009, 10:46 PM

Think about it, crazy last second plays or multiple kick returns to pull out an improbable victory. That's just how we won early on in 2003 until the end of the year rolled around and the meltdown started. I'm still waiting for it. I'm not sold on the Broncos yet.

88TG88 · 10-20-2009, 10:48 PM

It's possible, tell me more.

Hammock Parties · 10-20-2009, 10:51 PM

They won't be winning any playoff games.

The comparison ends there.

scorpio · 10-21-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

They won't be winning any playoff games.

The comparison ends there.

Thank you GoChiefs, you don't know how much this means to me and the rest of the Broncos fans.

**Shaid** · 10-20-2009, 10:55 PM

We'll see what things look like a bit later on. They've pulled out some close games. Their D looks good but look how at how good our D was at takeaways early in 2003. Sorry, I'm still not buying it.

KCrockaholic · 10-20-2009, 11:03 PM

Divisional Playoff loss to the Colts??? Yes, I see it...

teedubya · 10-20-2009, 11:10 PM

Mike Nolan > Greg Robinson

**DaFace** · 10-20-2009, 11:12 PM

They look a lot better than the 2003 Chiefs, frankly. Maybe not on offense, but their balance is much better.

KCrockaholic · 10-20-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

They look a lot better than the 2003 Chiefs, frankly. Maybe not on offense, but their balance is much better.

I guess this is true

**Shaid** · 10-20-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

They look a lot better than the 2003 Chiefs, frankly. Maybe not on offense, but their balance is much better.

I agree their balance is better but our offense was absolutely dominant so I don't think we can say they look a lot better.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-20-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid

Think about it, crazy last second plays or multiple kick returns to pull out an improbable victory. That's just how we won early on in 2003 until the end of the year rolled around and the meltdown started. I'm still waiting for it. I'm not sold on the Broncos yet.

Yeah, you're right.

Their young offensive line, anchored by second year left tackle Ryan Clady is overrated.

Their receivers, led by Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal, rounded out by Tony Scheffler are overated.

Their running backs, led by Buckhalter and rookie Knowshon Moreno are awful.

Their defense, especially Dumerville, is a mirage. Mike Nolan sucks ass, even in Baltimore. He doesn't have a clue.

Yep, you're right. They are in no way, shape or form a good team, nor will they be a good team for years.

Especially with all those draft picks.

**Shaid** · 10-20-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, you're right.

Their young offensive line, anchored by second year left tackle Ryan Clady is overrated.

Their receivers, led by Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal, rounded out by Tony Scheffler are overated.

Their running backs, led by Buckhalter and rookie Knowshon Moreno are awful.

Their defense, especially Dumerville, is a mirage. Mike Nolan sucks ass, even in Baltimore. He doesn't have a clue.

Yep, you're right. They are in no way, shape or form a good team, nor will they be a good team for years.

Especially with all those draft picks.

I didn't say they were a bad team but there is a sudden pimping of Denver around here that's a bit premature. They could easily have a few losses and most people would probably still have the same opinion they had of them before the season. Now they are undefeated, just like the 2003 Chiefs were, and people are calling them Superbowl contenders. Sorry, I don't see it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-20-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid

I didn't say they were a bad team but there is a sudden pimping of Denver around here that's a bit premature. They could easily have a few losses and most people would probably still have the same opinion they had of them before the season. Now they are undefeated, just like the 2003 Chiefs were, and people are calling them Superbowl contenders. Sorry, I don't see it.

Then you're blind.

The Broncos haven't beat a bunch of pushovers. They didn't beat a series of 0-5 teams like the Redskins. They beat New England, Cincinnati, Dallas and now S.D. on the road.

They should be given their due respect.

Saccopoo · 10-21-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, you're right.

Their young offensive line, anchored by second year left tackle Ryan Clady is overrated.

Weigmann might be the most underrated center that's played in the NFL in the past 20 years. Waters has looked like shit since he's left. ****ing Herm and his youth movement.

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Their receivers, led by Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal, rounded out by Tony Scheffler are overated.

This is a really nice group. One of the better receiving corps in the league.

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Their running backs, led by Buckhalter and rookie Knowshon Moreno are awful.

I sense some degree of sarcasm here. Personally, I think that the jury is out and McPuberty is channelling the ghosts of Shanahans past.

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Their defense, especially Dumerville, is a mirage. Mike Nolan sucks ass, even in Baltimore. He doesn't have a clue.

Nolan sucks. Dumerville is an absolute beast that is thriving as a rush end in a 3-4 setup. He's a one trick pony, but he can do that one trick really, really well. And the Doncos are consistently blitzing on his side to the inside of him to take away runs that could potentially counter that aggressiveness that he has. I'd dump short slants over top of the left side (offense) to mitigate that, but that would be dependent upon having an offensive line that would actually allow a quarterback time to throw anything in a set route pattern.

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Yep, you're right. They are in no way, shape or form a good team, nor will they be a good team for years. Especially with all those draft picks.

Eh...the dildos pissed away a first rounder on a dime cornerback. And I'm not to sure that they (Xanders/McPuberty) really have a clue in terms of a draft board.

Personally, I think they've been lucky as shit so far this season. They legitimately beat the Pats, but then, the Raiders just beat the Eagles. Weird shit happens. I don't think they are even remotely as good as their record indicates this season. Which is good in that they are moving farther down the draft board with each and every lucky as hell win. Maybe that let's them get another stellar draft like last year when they had two first rounders and three 2nd round picks and got:

1st Rounders:
RB Knowshon Moreno
- So far so good but so has most Donco RB's over the past 15 years regardless of their talent level. One TD and a long run of 17 yards in six games...meh.

LB Robert Ayers
- Seven tackles. Six games. Stunning.

2nd Rounders:
CB Alphonso Smith
- So worth it to trade away a future first rounder for this guys draft rights so he can be your third string punt and kickoff return guy.

CB/S Darcel McBath
- Who? Two tackles per game? Yikes.

TE Richard Quinn
- A second round pick? Really? For your third string TE that hasn't seen action in a single game? Sexy.

Mile High Mania · 10-21-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Maybe that let's them get another stellar draft like last year when they had two first rounders and three 2nd round picks and got:

1st Rounders:
RB Knowshon Moreno
- So far so good but so has most Donco RB's over the past 15 years regardless of their talent level. One TD and a long run of 17 yards in six games...meh.

LB Robert Ayers
- Seven tackles. Six games. Stunning.

2nd Rounders:
CB Alphonso Smith
- So worth it to trade away a future first rounder for this guys draft rights so he can be your third string punt and kickoff return guy.

CB/S Darcel McBath
- Who? Two tackles per game? Yikes.

TE Richard Quinn
- A second round pick? Really? For your third string TE that hasn't seen action in a single game? Sexy.

The thing is you appear to be one that expects the rookies to step in immediately and produce. So far, they haven't been asked to do that... Denver had a nice core of veterans and they made (what appears to be for now) some nice veteran FA signings. The rookies are getting playing time, but they're not starting every game .... aside from Moreno recently.

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