Weiss told Fox to take Clausen

Chiefnj2 · 04-27-2010, 10:27 AM

It's water under the bridge, but interesting nonetheless:

In doing pre-draft research, not that he thought he'd have a chance to get Clausen, Fox talked to Charlie Weis, his good friend and the former Irish coach. Weis and Fox are close. Fox is sure Weis wouldn't lie to him. "Charlie said he's probably the best he's ever had,'' Fox said. "He said, 'Take this guy. Trust me.' Everyone I talked to, including a couple of people at Notre Dame, said the character issue was b.s. So we picked him.''

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**The Franchise** · 04-27-2010, 10:30 AM

But he's a douchebag and will never amount to shit! /CP

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2010, 10:32 AM

God these Notre Dame players are ****ing assholes.

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"We talked after we got picked,'' Golden Tate said. "And the one thing we both agreed on is that it's a lot more important where you go than how high you go.''

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 10:34 AM

And people will still believe that Weis didn't want him, and that Pioli really does listen to his coaching staff.

**** it.

Good luck to the kid. He landed in a pretty good situation. The only real concern is the possibility of a coaching change next year.

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And people will still believe that Weis didn't want him, and that Pioli really does listen to his coaching staff.

**** it.

Good luck to the kid. He landed in a pretty good situation. The only real concern is the possibility of a coaching change next year.

I don't think a coaching change will affect Clausen that much. He's not high priced and won't cost the new regime anything to keep around.

Amnorix · 04-27-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And people will still believe that Weis didn't want him, and that Pioli really does listen to his coaching staff.

**** it.

Good luck to the kid. He landed in a pretty good situation. The only real concern is the possibility of a coaching change next year.

Just wanted to note that talking up Clausen to a friend who has a serious issue at QB isn't the same as saying that he likes him more than he likes Cassel. There's just no info on that.

If Weis came back to the Patriots and talked up Clausen to Fox, does that that mean that Weis thought he should be drafted to replace Brady?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Just wanted to note that talking up Clausen to a friend who has a serious issue at QB isn't the same as saying that he likes him more than he likes Cassel. There's just no info on that.

If Weis came back to the Patriots and talked up Clausen to Fox, does that that mean that Weis thought he should be drafted to replace Brady?

Out of respect, I'm going to ignore that you just compared the Chiefs needs at QB to those of the Patriots.

Amnorix · 04-27-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Out of respect, I'm going to ignore that you just compared the Chiefs needs at QB to those of the Patriots.

I was just using it as a hypothetical. What MANY around here seem unwilling to accept is that the Chiefs front office and, presumably, Weis, are ok with having Matt Cassel as the QB.

You've seen one season of him surrounded by, pardon my bluntness, shit for talent, and you've written off the guy like he's the second coming of Ryan freaking Leaf. I KNOW he doesn't have a good feel for the deep ball, etc. but just because he's not Mad Bomber Lamonica doesn't mean he sucks ballz and that Clausen should obviously have been drafted.

orange · 04-27-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

"Charlie said he's probably the best he's ever had,'' Fox said. "He said, 'Take this guy. Trust me.'

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And people will still believe that Weis didn't want him, and that Pioli really does listen to his coaching staff.

Sounds like there was never any chance that the Chiefs would take him.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Sounds like there was never any chance that the Chiefs would take him.

According to that, I agree.

It doesn't change, however, WHY we weren't taking him.

Did Charlie not want him, or did Pioli overrule him?

We'll likely never know.

**SAUTO** · 04-27-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Sounds like there was never any chance that the Chiefs would take him.

i have a question. weis saying that clausen "was the best he's EVER had". does that mean in the pros or just ncaa.

if its the former and weis thought clausen was better than brady IMO we would have taken him.

if its the latter clausen is only better than quinn.

quinn went for a 5th this year

Amnorix · 04-27-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i have a question. weis saying that clausen "was the best he's EVER had". does that mean in the pros [i.e. Tom freaking Brady] or just ncaa.

You get one guess. I'm hoping you can get it right...

CoMoChief · 04-27-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

God these Notre Dame players are ****ing assholes.

No it shows they would rather end up in a good place where they can win as opposed to going to some shitty ass organization and spending half of your short lived NFL career losing.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-27-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

No it shows they would rather end up in a good place where they can win as opposed to going to some shitty ass organization and spending half of your short lived NFL career losing.

Dude, jiggle the batteries in your sarcasm meter.

That's exactly his point.

Chiefnj2 · 04-27-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

No it shows they would rather end up in a good place where they can win as opposed to going to some shitty ass organization and spending half of your short lived NFL career losing.

Bull. It's a consolation prize after falling out of the big bucks in the first round.

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