Chiefs Offense v. Defense using comparable stats

**petegz28** · 11-21-2016, 10:39 AM

We keep hearing from some on here how the Chiefs are the 28th ranked offense. In the same breath the people defend the defense by saying "they only gave up X points".

Okay so fair enough, but not really. Let's look at like for like.

Scoring offense (because points are what matters)
Chiefs are 19th. Not 28th

Scoring defense (because points are what matters)
Chiefs are 5th - very good

now compare the same stat that people like to tout as 28th ranked offense..yards per game

Yards Per Game Offense:
Chiefs are 24th

Yards Per Game Defense:
Chiefs are 25th

So pick your poison but keep it consistent on both sides of the ball

Simply Red · 11-21-2016, 10:40 AM

Oh well, It's only a game.

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 10:41 AM

The Chiefs have more scoring opportunities BECAUSE the defense creates all of those turnovers. They still only score FGs.

**petegz28** · 11-21-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The Chiefs have more scoring opportunities BECAUSE the defense creates all of those turnovers. They still only score FGs.

Yeah you totally missed the point of the thread.....good job

Sandy Vagina · 11-21-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The Chiefs have more scoring opportunities BECAUSE the defense creates all of those turnovers. They still only score FGs.

at times, very true.. but then you have to keep it fair and realize that if the KC D can't get off the field and gives up TOP like they did yesterday.. it minimizes
the opportunities the O has to score.

then I hear you bitch about Andy Reid's playcalling.. all of you.. and then you wonder WHY the offense struggles to score TDs? or worse, point to an individual?

The team has a lot of problems... and is still 7-3. THAT's what should give people hope.

The top players return from injury.. the playcalls get cleaned up a bit.. the QB gets some confidence back... maybe they can still make an impressive run.

Beef Supreme · 11-21-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

at times, very true.. but then you have to keep it fair and realize that if the KC D can't get off the field and gives up TOP like they did yesterday.. it minimizes
the opportunities the O has to score.

then I hear you bitch about Andy Reid's playcalling.. all of you.. and then you wonder WHY the offense struggles to score TDs? or worse, point to an individual?

The team has a lot of problems... and is still 7-3. THAT's what should give people hope.

The top players return from injury.. the playcalls get cleaned up a bit.. the QB gets some confidence back... maybe they can still make an impressive run.

The Chiefs had the ball 9 times. The Bucs had the ball 8 times.

**ptlyon** · 11-21-2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

The Chiefs had the ball 9 times. The Bucs had the ball 8 times.

If you subtract the kneel down right before half they are the same

**petegz28** · 11-21-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

If you subtract the kneel down right before half they are the same

And the take away our possession with 8 secs left in the game as well as it was never going to happen

DJ's left nut · 11-21-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

The Chiefs had the ball 9 times. The Bucs had the ball 8 times.

2 of those times were with mere seconds left in the respective halves.

The Chiefs had 7 drives and had that few because the defense was unable to keep the Bucs from getting into Chiefs territory on every single possession except the very last one where they stalled at the 49 after not even trying to throw the football anymore.

The Bucs offense toyed with the Chiefs defense all day.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

2 of those times were with mere seconds left in the respective halves.

The Chiefs had 7 drives and had that few because the defense was unable to keep the Bucs from getting into Chiefs territory on every single possession except the very last one where they stalled at the 49 after not even trying to throw the football anymore.

The Bucs offense toyed with the Chiefs defense all day.

The fact that TB could drive 50+ yards on all 3 FG's they scored is a damn shame. That's not what a top ranked defense does.

**The Franchise** · 11-21-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

2 of those times were with mere seconds left in the respective halves.

The Chiefs had 7 drives and had that few because the defense was unable to keep the Bucs from getting into Chiefs territory on every single possession except the very last one where they stalled at the 49 after not even trying to throw the football anymore.

The Bucs offense toyed with the Chiefs defense all day.

Offense didn't help out the defense at all.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 10:47 AM

If the battle is supposedly won in the trenches...it's a shame our run defense is tied for the bottom 5 and gives up the 6th most rushing yards each game.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...sition/defense

**notorious** · 11-21-2016, 11:32 AM

Did you subtract defensive touchdowns from the total points scored?

**petegz28** · 11-21-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Did you subtract defensive touchdowns from the total points scored?

Offensive points scored is how it was sorted....ask the NFL

11-21-2016, 10:39 AM	Topic Starter
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1085873	Offense v. Defense using comparable stats We keep hearing from some on here how the Chiefs are the 28th ranked offense. In the same breath the people defend the defense by saying "they only gave up X points". Okay so fair enough, but not really. Let's look at like for like. Scoring offense (because points are what matters) Chiefs are 19th. Not 28th Scoring defense (because points are what matters) Chiefs are 5th - very good now compare the same stat that people like to tout as 28th ranked offense..yards per game Yards Per Game Offense: Chiefs are 24th Yards Per Game Defense: Chiefs are 25th So pick your poison but keep it consistent on both sides of the ball
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