Chiefs Hypothetical: Is it possible for Bob Sutton's defense to NOT blow a lead?

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2018, 01:13 AM

Imagine that we're in the playoffs. There's 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter and we're in the lead. What is the SMALLEST lead we'd need to have before you felt comfortable that Bob Sutton's defense wouldn't blow it?

Poll coming slower and more painfully than a 13-minute game-winning drive against a Bob Sutton defense.

**petegz28** · 12-14-2018, 01:14 AM

21 points. Sutton defenses are notorious for blowing large leads quickly.

bobbything · 12-14-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

21 points. Sutton defenses are notorious for blowing large leads quickly.

Nothing less than three possessions. I can’t believe I’m typing that.

**notorious** · 12-14-2018, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

21 points. Sutton defenses are notorious for blowing large leads quickly.

21 isn’t enough.

lcarus · 12-14-2018, 01:16 AM

10 minutes? And the opponent has the ball? I'd like to say 3 TDs would be a safe lead because more often than not our offense will come through enough to protect that lead, but I'd still be sweating with this defense. Even 24 if they score 3 TDs and get 2 pt conversions they could come back. So I guess I'll go 25 to feel completely safe.

Man that's ****ing SAD.

Reerun_KC · 12-14-2018, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

10 minutes? And the opponent has the ball? I'd like to say 3 TDs would be a safe lead because more often than not our offense will come through enough to protect that lead, but I'd still be sweating with this defense. Even 24 if they score 3 TDs and get 2 pt conversions they could come back. So I guess I'll go 25 to feel completely safe.

Man that's ****ing SAD.

See colts playoff loss.

Randallflagg · 12-14-2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

10 minutes? And the opponent has the ball? I'd like to say 3 TDs would be a safe lead because more often than not our offense will come through enough to protect that lead, but I'd still be sweating with this defense. Even 24 if they score 3 TDs and get 2 pt conversions they could come back. So I guess I'll go 25 to feel completely safe.

Man that's ****ing SAD.

Frankly, I don't think ANY lead is safe with Sutton calling the Defense.

jaa1025 · 12-14-2018, 01:17 AM

Hopefully, this game is a wakeup call for the team. I'd much rather them have a reminder that Reid and Sutton conservative, play not to lose mentality, doesn't work during the regular season than in the playoffs like the colts game.

lcarus · 12-14-2018, 01:25 AM

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Hopefully, this game is a wakeup call for the team. I'd much rather them have a reminder that Reid and Sutton conservative, play not to lose mentality, doesn't work during the regular season than in the playoffs like the colts game.

Dude, this has happened so many times in crucial games over the past several seasons that there's 0 reason to expect them to learn anything.

RickObie · 12-14-2018, 01:20 AM

How sad is this!!

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2018, 01:22 AM

To be perfectly honest, I'd need a 35 point lead. I would still lack confidence even if the lead was 28 points with 10 minutes left in the fourth. We would shut everything down on offense and allow them to roam the field on defense.

**bevischief** · 12-14-2018, 01:59 AM

How much Curry did he tip?

**Mav** · 12-14-2018, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Imagine that we're in the playoffs. There's 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter and we're in the lead. What is the SMALLEST lead we'd need to have before you felt comfortable that Bob Sutton's defense wouldn't blow it?

Poll coming slower and more painfully than a 13-minute game-winning drive against a Bob Sutton defense.

Well I’d use the Colts game of 2013 and last years Titans games as barometers. It stuns me that Reid hasn’t learned to avoid this prevent offense thing.

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**BigRedChief** · 12-14-2018, 02:16 AM

In the last 15 years, NFL team trailing by 14 points on the road with 5:00 remaining have lost 1,040 times. Won 4 times.

BlackOp · 12-14-2018, 02:29 AM

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In the last 15 years, NFL team trailing by 14 points on the road with 5:00 remaining have lost 1,040 times. Won 4 times.

Amazing that the Chargers came back from 16 at Pittsburgh....Steelers were 174-0-1 when leading by that margain...so almost 30 years of home games.

and to turn around and do this just 2 games later..what are the odds? That is 1 in 250 this week.

So overcoming 1 in 174 and 1 in 250 odds...that is some *cough cough* ..."luck"..and on National television both times.

I haven't seen a team this lucky since the 2016 Raiders and their record EIGHT 4th quarter comebacks.

View Poll Results: I would feel comfortable if it was the 4th quarter and Bob was protecting a lead of .
1 point – It’s just a fluke that Bob Sutton’s defenses have collapsed in every single game of his career.	0	0%
7 points – I would trust Bob to protect a seven-point lead even if he’s never done it.	0	0%
14 points – No team can beat us with this type of lead, unless it’s an important game.	1	1.75%
21 points – These types of losses are very rare for teams other than Bob Sutton’s teams.	8	14.04%
28 points – We’ve only blown a 28 point lead once, so I think we’re usually safe even though it’ll be close.	8	14.04%
35 points – I’m reasonably confident that Bob could avoid an NFL record comeback	10	17.54%
50 points – It would have to be a lead so large that it’s beyond unprecedented. But in that case, I think he could do it.	9	15.79%
74 points – I think Bob could stop a team from setting the NFL scoring record in ten minutes. Maybe.	5	8.77%
100 points or more - I don’t care what the score is and how much time is left. Bob is going to lose the game unless it’s a ludicrous lead.	2	3.51%
No amount – If the lead was 1,000 points I’m still sure that Bob would give it up.	13	22.81%
I can't vote until I know the condition of Berry's heel.	0	0%
For tax reasons, my accountant advises me not to answer these questions	1	1.75%
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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-622449 VARSITY	To be perfectly honest, I'd need a 35 point lead. I would still lack confidence even if the lead was 28 points with 10 minutes left in the fourth. We would shut everything down on offense and allow them to roam the field on defense. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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