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Old 11-10-2019, 10:11 PM   Topic Starter
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When was the last time
..The Chiefs had a good defense? I mean a damn good defense?

Twenty years? Before that?

This is the elephant in the room even Mahomes gun can't kill. Which is ironic because the majority of the Chiefs players in the HOF are defensive players
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:12 PM   #2
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Marty days? That 95 D was special.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:13 PM   #3
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Marty days? That 95 D was special.
Almost 25 years ago.

That's pathetic.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:13 PM   #4
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Define good.

They had some good defenses in 2014 (2nd in points, 7th in yards allowed) and 2015 (3rd in points allowed, 7th in yards allowed).

They had some decent defenses in the Haley years (barely out of the top 10).

Been a while since they had a great defense.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:16 PM   #5
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Define good.

They had some good defenses in 2014 (2nd in points, 7th in yards allowed) and 2015 (3rd in points allowed, 7th in yards allowed).
Not when it counted most.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:17 PM   #6
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Not when it counted most.
Same can be said about the Marty years. A couple playoff games in Buffalo come immediately to mind.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:20 PM   #7
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Same can be said about the Marty years. A couple playoff games in Buffalo come immediately to mind.
Wish Joe would have stayed on for 1 more year. It was Bono with the 95 D.
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Not when it counted most.
I'm more inclined to blame the bottom 10 offenses led by Alice.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:22 PM   #9
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I'm more inclined to blame the bottom 10 offenses led by Alice.
Nah, they gave up leads.

See Indy & Tenn

Even so, a spattering of years since the 90's?

Sub par.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:28 PM   #10
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Nah, they gave up leads.

See Indy & Tenn

Even so, a spattering of years since the 90's?

Sub par.
Yeah, they gave up some leads but how many times did they have to save our ass on a final drive because Alex and the offense couldn't put the game away. Now it's the opposite.
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Nah, they gave up leads.

See Indy & Tenn
See Andy Reid going into a conservative offensive shell, just like earlier today.
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Define good.

They had some good defenses in 2014 (2nd in points, 7th in yards allowed) and 2015 (3rd in points allowed, 7th in yards allowed).

They had some decent defenses in the Haley years (barely out of the top 10).

Been a while since they had a great defense.
This. The year Berry came back was decent.

We had to have some good D to get all those wins with Alex Smith throwing to the running backs and shit.
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Define good.

They had some good defenses in 2014 (2nd in points, 7th in yards allowed) and 2015 (3rd in points allowed, 7th in yards allowed).

They had some decent defenses in the Haley years (barely out of the top 10).

Been a while since they had a great defense.
Yep. Which is why I think it's funny when people say Reid doesn't care about defense. The defense carried the team in Reid's first five seasons here. His best years in Philly were with Jim Johnson's defense.
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It was in the Marty years. One of those years they allowed only like 12 ppg or something like that.
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