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View Poll Results: Better hire? | |||
Big Red |
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28 | 84.85% |
Hoodie |
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1 | 3.03% |
The same |
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3 | 9.09% |
Not sure |
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1 | 3.03% |
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Topic Starter |
Rabbi Goldmann
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Better hire: Andy Reid or Bill Belichick?
Did KC or NE make the better hire?
Reid in KC: 117-45 (.722) BB in NE: 262-108 (.708) 6 years before Reid: 29-67 (.302) 6 years before BB: 54-42 (.562) Reid with Mahomes: 64-18 (.780) BB with Tom Brady: 219-64 (.774) Reid without Mahomes: 183-120 (.603) BB without Tom Brady: 79-88 (.473) BB deserves his accolades for his long run and winning the SB many times. But Reid might get a couple more too - and who could honestly say he didn’t have the far tougher turnaround? |
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First in.
I went with Andy. BB took over a team that was what, 4 or 5 years removed from a Super Bowl appearance? The Chiefs had close to the worst winning percentage in the NFL under Pioli. Andy immediately turned them into a playoff team. To me, it's a no-brainer. |
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Reid.
**** Belicheat. |
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Easily Reid. BB is a near disaster without Tom Brady and without Tom...Bill is probably out of coaching at this point. Reid has done it with multiple teams, in multiple conferences, and different personnel.
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I’d also add that Reid and the Chiefs made a strategic move to go get Smith and then Mahomes. Both took a pretty solid investment and came with a lot of risk.
Smith was up and down before Reid. Mahomes was an unknown, who many thought would be a bust. Reid went after and developed both. BB just got lucky with Brady.
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Bill was fortunate enough to get Brady when he was young. Andy could theoretically go about 7-8 more years IMO.
But yes Andy is the better coach. Bill is nothing without Tom. Andy has taken many QB’s and turned those teams into consistent playoff teams
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BB has more rings so its BB
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First 5 seasons with a HOF QB:
Bill-3 Super Bowl appearances, 3 Super Bowl wins, 1 yr missed playoffs, 1 year lost divisional rd Andy-3 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Super Bowl win, 1 Super Bowl TBD, 2 conference championship appearances Bills got the upper hand in that race. But Bill got 19 seasons of Tom. I doubt Andy will get more than 12 or 13. That’s a big disparity
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Rabbi Goldmann
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We were 2-14 the year before he was hired. Outscored by 214 (13.3 per game). Our SOS, which is how many points off you are from average team, was -14.0. Easily the worst in 63 years of franchise history. The 2008 abortion was -9.2 worse.
If you look at ELO which is a similar measure, our franchise low point was reached after DungVer blew us out 38-3 in the last game of 2012. |
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BB's record was great.
In the current NFL Reid is better. |
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Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
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Obviously Andy over Belicheat.
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Hoodie has dove nothing without Brady. Andy was in contention for a number of years with the Eagles
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Bill Belichick is literally the worst football coach of all time!!!!
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