*****ALL-22 THREAD*****

[ToxSocks]

Just a thread for All-22 nerds to jot down random thoughts and observations. Weekly threads seem like a chore so i think this would be a better format.

[ToxSocks]

Watching Noah Gray's TD catch....man that play design is a thing of beauty. Rashee Rice clears out one safety and his corner on a crosser, another DB bites down on Kelce sitting down underneath and Gray runs between the void left by the two of them and springs wiiiide open for the easy TD.

-Just call McDuffie "Clamp God". Seriously. He's ridiculous. This guy is practically running routes for these guys, and i never realized how physical he is in his coverage.

- sorry. The very next play....****in' McDuffie is a beast. Coverage on lock.

-FAU in coverage. Wilson (?) catches a first down filling a hole in the zone between FAU and Sneed.
I mention it because FAU in coverage is an odd thing to be a thing yet here we are. THey effectively got Garret Wilson matched up in coverage against FAU....c'mon now.

-Allen Lazard can't get open against Trent McDuffie. He just can't. It's hilarious.
Sneed gets beat on this same play as he's left in a no win situation. Outside leverage on Wilson who beats him inside where there's a massive void in the coverage.
Also: Sorry about lack of timestamps etc. I use the App and i haven't seen them include time stamps in over a year.

-Just as I say that, McDuffie gets beat by Lazard. Not sure what happened here, McDuffie looking at Mike Edwards mid play like he did something wrong as Lazard keeps working deeper, McDuffie kinda lost track. Wilson hits him for a big gain. Terrible throw btw. Lazard has to stop and come back for it, McDuffie's momentum carried him out of the play.
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[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Watching Noah Gray's TD catch....man that play design is a thing of beauty. Rashee Rice clears out one safety and his corner on a crosser, another DB bites down on Kelce sitting down underneath and Gray runs between the void left by the two of them and springs wiiiide open for the easy TD.

-Just call McDuffie "Clamp God". Seriously. He's ridiculous. This guy is practically running routes for these guys, and i never realized how physical he is in his coverage.

- sorry. The very next play....****in' McDuffie is a beast. Coverage on lock.

-FAU in coverage. Wilson (?) catches a first down filling a hole in the zone between FAU and Sneed.
I mention it because FAU in coverage is an odd thing to be a thing yet here we are. THey effectively got Garret Wilson matched up in coverage against FAU....c'mon now.

-Allen Lazard can't get open against Trent McDuffie. He just can't. It's hilarious.
Sneed gets beat on this same play as he's left in a no win situation. Outside leverage on Wilson who beats him inside where there's a massive void in the coverage.
Also: Sorry about lack of timestamps etc. I use the App and i haven't seen them include time stamps in over a year.

-Just as I say that, McDuffie gets beat by Lazard. Not sure what happened here, McDuffie looking at Mike Edwards mid play like he did something wrong as Lazard keeps working deeper, McDuffie kinda lost track. Wilson hits him for a big gain. Terrible throw btw. Lazard has to stop and come back for it, McDuffie's momentum carried him out of the play.
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Would be interested in what you're seeing with Sneed. Aside from the usual solid tackling his coverage has looked way off his best to me.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Would be interested in what you're seeing with Sneed. Aside from the usual solid tackling his coverage has looked way off his best to me.

Vs the Jets i thought he did a great job against Wilson. You can tell what the Chiefs think of him by having him shadow Wilson when they went man, and they went man fairly frequently.

I noticed him shadowing guys in prior games too.

If that's what they're asking of Sneed (and by default McDuffie etc) then i think it's fair if they get beat from time to time.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Vs the Jets i thought he did a great job against Wilson. You can tell what the Chiefs think of him by having him shadow Wilson when they went man, and they went man fairly frequently.

I noticed him shadowing guys in prior games too.

If that's what they're asking of Sneed (and by default McDuffie etc) then i think it's fair if they get beat from time to time.

Cool, interesting, thanks Detoxing

[Chiefspants]

Any chance you can provide timestamps or drive/play numbers to your observations? I like this idea but would love context it’s where it is in the game.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Any chance you can provide timestamps or drive/play numbers to your observations? I like this idea but would love context it’s where it is in the game.

yeah i hear ya. I'll see if i can provide context to the time of the play. And i'll try to condense my posts too, sorry ha.

I'm using the APP on a smart tv and it's not providing any time stamps in the video. Not sure if the app is different on a different medium such as a PC.

[ToxSocks]

Regarding Mahomes 1st Int:

3 man route initially, Kelce, Gray and MVS. Pacheco sneaks out into the flat. Kelce and MVS double covered, Gray sneaks behind the zone and IS open. Wide open, really.

Mahomes late on the throw, tries to loft it over to compensate. Had Mahomes seen Gray earlier that's an easy completion.

EDIT: Gray could've done Mahomes a favor and drifted a little deeper into the void that MVS cleared out. But still, i stand by my initial observation. Had Mahomes seen Gray earlier in the route and threw with more anticipation, this is a completion for a big gainer.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Regarding Mahomes 1st Int:

3 man route initially, Kelce, Gray and MVS. Pacheco sneaks out into the flat. Kelce and MVS double covered, Gray sneaks behind the zone and IS open. Wide open, really.

Mahomes late on the throw, tries to loft it over to compensate. Had Mahomes seen Gray earlier that's an easy completion.

EDIT: Gray could've done Mahomes a favor and drifted a little deeper into the void that MVS cleared out. But still, i stand by my initial observation. Had Mahomes seen Gray earlier in the route and threw with more anticipation, this is a completion for a big gainer.

I don't think he saw the dropping LB'er. I think he saw Mosley, but not the dude that made the pick.

[ToxSocks]

- Ensuing Jets drive after Mahomes INT; TD play: Reid tries pressing the TE, gets bodied and just moved out of position for the TD score.

-Regarding Mahomes 2nd INT: Really nothing there to be had in terms of open receivers. No idea what Mahomes thought when he threw that ball. At no point was Kelce ever open. He had one guy over the top and one guy underneath trailing.