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Old 10-18-2010, 09:51 AM  
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Let's discuss the POSSIBILITY of shaved points and fixing games.(video included)

Can't find it now but when I was n00b here I started a thread that was discussing a book I have called Interference:How Organized Crime Influences the NFL from 1989.

The author is interviewed in the attatched video from the Sajak show.I've also added a couple of other videos,one,which I believe was the biggest example of a fix that I've ever witnessed in the NFL.

Before I get lit up let me say,I'm not saying games are fixed for who wins or loses but I do believe point shaving goes on quite a bit and in the process it affects the wins and losses.

Hope you enjoy the videos and it brings about a good discussion.







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Old 10-25-2010, 03:36 PM   #46
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I just watched the 1st and 2nd video.

The first video was pretty cool, with the author talking to Sajak.

The 2nd video however, could have been shortened to about 3 minutes long. What was the deal with showing all the NBA fights? What does that have to do with anything? Also at the end it says Stern cannot be prosecuted for the 2002 WC Finals because the statute of limitations is 5 years. Well, I really doubt he'll ever get charged with fixing games, but that's not how the statute of limitations works.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:36 PM   #47
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Thanks for taking the time to post this stuff Nzoner....Very cool of you.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:53 PM   #48
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Hey Nzoner, I didn't see this thread the first time around, but I remember we were talking about the NFL Fixing games when I was out there.

Do you know if the officials ever gave a reason as to why Polamalu's TD didn't count in that 3rd vid? I remember the game, but obviously when the Chargers lost, I didn't care if it was by 1 or by 7. Usually when they lose I go into a hole for about 3 days and don't watch ESPN or anything so I may have missed any discussion on the matter.
Not to sound like an ass but it's in the video,it was ruled an illegal forward pass.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:54 PM   #49
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There is little question that the call on Flowers was part of a fix. There is simply no other explanation for that as defensive pass interference.
That is what I have told all my buddies up here in Chicago, when they ask what happened in that game.

The fix was in!

The only one I can come up with besides the fix.

The ref, decided after he had thrown the flag, not to call a penalty that would piss off the home fans and end the game for Houston.
So he called it on Flowers, as the pass was completed anyway. It is not good, but it is the only thing else I can come up with.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:01 PM   #50
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When I heard that call yesterday, the first thing I thought of was this thread. He fumbled, but the three Dolphins who first fall on the ball isn't really conclusive, so we'll give the ball back to the Steelers to try again.

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Old 10-25-2010, 04:04 PM   #51
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Not to sound like an ass but it's in the video,it was ruled an illegal forward pass.
Oh I must have tuned that out. Sorry.
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Thanks for posting that Joe, I hadn't seen it. Holy crap, that is pure bullshit!
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:20 PM   #53
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Not to sound like an ass but it's in the video,it was ruled an illegal forward pass.
nothing has ever been more obvious that the refs were covering the spread
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When I was waiting for the official to make the final call yesterday, I thought of this thread.
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