Football Let's discuss the POSSIBILITY of shaved points and fixing games.(video included) - Page 3

**Nzoner** · 10-18-2010, 09:51 AM

Can't find it now but when I was n00b here I started a thread that was discussing a book I have called Interference:How Organized Crime Influences the NFL from 1989.

The author is interviewed in the attatched video from the Sajak show.I've also added a couple of other videos,one,which I believe was the biggest example of a fix that I've ever witnessed in the NFL.

Before I get lit up let me say,I'm not saying games are fixed for who wins or loses but I do believe point shaving goes on quite a bit and in the process it affects the wins and losses.

Hope you enjoy the videos and it brings about a good discussion.

Mecca · 10-18-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Call me crazy, but the inevitable decline of the Colts might have something to do with losing Peyton's rare and irreplaceable talent.

Mixture of both, yes the guy is a great player but there is no denying the Colts are in the leagues preferred handful of teams and have been for a long time.

vailpass · 10-18-2010, 11:48 AM

I saw the word "shaved" and thought this was going to be a whole different type of thread. Bummer.

**Nzoner** · 10-18-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

In short for the Chiefs to ever become a favored team we'll need to draft a player that because a superstar face of the league, as soon as Manning retires the Colts will go back to being an afterthought.

I can see it now,Peyton announces it'll be his final year and what do you know he gets to face Eli in the Super Bowl which will be the Super Bowl I never watch.

ClevelandBronco · 10-18-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Mixture of both, yes the guy is a great player but there is no denying the Colts are in the leagues preferred handful of teams and have been for a long time.

I imagine the league has found that it's easier to market winners than it is to market losers.

vailpass · 10-18-2010, 11:49 AM

Did you guys know the US government was behind 9-11?

ClevelandBronco · 10-18-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

I can see it now,Peyton announces it'll be his final year and what do you know he gets to face Eli the Super Bowl which will be the Super Bowl I never watch.

Does Favre have a son he could face in a Super Bowl? That'd be just peachy.

Mecca · 10-18-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I imagine the league has found that it's easier to market winners than it is to market losers.

You're missing the point here, there are lots of winners and a handful of teams that seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.

Seattle was a winner, wasn't it pretty blatantly obvious the NFL had a much more vested interest in Pittsburgh winning that Superbowl?

ClevelandBronco · 10-18-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You're missing the point here, there are lots of winners and a handful of teams that seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.

Seattle was a winner, wasn't it pretty blatantly obvious the NFL had a much more vested interest in Pittsburgh winning that Superbowl?

No. That was not blatantly obvious to me, but I won't go so far as to say that those who share your view can't present a good argument. So, while I think that the outcome was favorable for the NFL, I'm not convinced that the outcome was predetermined.

**Nzoner** · 10-18-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You're missing the point here, there are lots of winners and a handful of teams that seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.

Seattle was a winner, wasn't it pretty blatantly obvious the NFL had a much more vested interest in Pittsburgh winning that Superbowl?

I think that argument could be made for the Steelers last 2 SB wins

**Nzoner** · 10-25-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You're missing the point here, there are lots of winners and a handful of teams that seem to always get the benefit of the doubt.

Seattle was a winner, wasn't it pretty blatantly obvious the NFL had a much more vested interest in Pittsburgh winning that Superbowl?

or the game in Miami yesterday.

Chiefnj2 · 10-25-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

or the game in Miami yesterday.

When I heard that call yesterday, the first thing I thought of was this thread. He fumbled, but the three Dolphins who first fall on the ball isn't really conclusive, so we'll give the ball back to the Steelers to try again.

**Nzoner** · 10-25-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

When I heard that call yesterday, the first thing I thought of was this thread. He fumbled, but the three Dolphins who first fall on the ball isn't really conclusive, so we'll give the ball back to the Steelers to try again.

Yeah,they ought to change their team name to the Stealers

Pablo · 10-25-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

Yeah,they ought to change their team name to the Stealers

I think frazod has patented the $tealers logo.

**Buck** · 10-25-2010, 03:14 PM

Hey Nzoner, I didn't see this thread the first time around, but I remember we were talking about the NFL Fixing games when I was out there.

Do you know if the officials ever gave a reason as to why Polamalu's TD didn't count in that 3rd vid? I remember the game, but obviously when the Chargers lost, I didn't care if it was by 1 or by 7. Usually when they lose I go into a hole for about 3 days and don't watch ESPN or anything so I may have missed any discussion on the matter.

Chiefs Rool · 10-25-2010, 03:24 PM

the NFL probably has the money being spent on bets from very rich people down to poor people. If you think that something with that type of money being exchanged and it's not corrupted, you're a little naive.

10-18-2010, 09:51 AM
Nzoner a haw haw haw Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU Casino cash: $26365802	Let's discuss the POSSIBILITY of shaved points and fixing games.(video included) Can't find it now but when I was n00b here I started a thread that was discussing a book I have called Interference:How Organized Crime Influences the NFL from 1989. The author is interviewed in the attatched video from the Sajak show.I've also added a couple of other videos,one,which I believe was the biggest example of a fix that I've ever witnessed in the NFL. Before I get lit up let me say,I'm not saying games are fixed for who wins or loses but I do believe point shaving goes on quite a bit and in the process it affects the wins and losses. Hope you enjoy the videos and it brings about a good discussion.
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10-18-2010, 11:48 AM	#32
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	I saw the word "shaved" and thought this was going to be a whole different type of thread. Bummer.
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10-18-2010, 11:49 AM	#35
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	Did you guys know the US government was behind 9-11?
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10-25-2010, 03:14 PM	#44
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $5950295	Hey Nzoner, I didn't see this thread the first time around, but I remember we were talking about the NFL Fixing games when I was out there. Do you know if the officials ever gave a reason as to why Polamalu's TD didn't count in that 3rd vid? I remember the game, but obviously when the Chargers lost, I didn't care if it was by 1 or by 7. Usually when they lose I go into a hole for about 3 days and don't watch ESPN or anything so I may have missed any discussion on the matter.
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10-25-2010, 03:24 PM	#45
Chiefs Rool Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Top City Casino cash: $10004900	the NFL probably has the money being spent on bets from very rich people down to poor people. If you think that something with that type of money being exchanged and it's not corrupted, you're a little naive.
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