Football Chiefs are NFL's most disappointing team

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 10:54 AM

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joe Montana is 59 years old, not far from Social Security.

The notion of Joe taking another NFL snap is, of course, ludicrous, but when he talks about the pass-happy NFL of today and how The League caters to quarterbacks and receivers, Montana has joked that he wouldn’t mind getting back behind center.

He sees wide receivers running free, unafraid.

He sees a vast land of opportunity, where only narrow swaths existed in his day.

Reporters ask Joe to compare, then and now. He obliges them.

Asked about the passing parties the NFL stages every Sunday, in particular, the shallow crossing routes that the Patriots and Packers and Chargers are using to great effect, Joe Cool all but said these kids need to get off his yard.

“If we’d tried that, the receiver wouldn’t have played another game for a month,” Montana told the Boston Herald's Ron Borges.

Every generation has its own challenges. Back when Montana last played, in the mid-1990s, his challenge was his own team. The Kansas City Chiefs. They almost never get it right at quarterback.

Sure, Len Dawson was a Hall of Famer. He helped them win a Super Bowl in 1970. An exception. The Chiefs surrounded Dawson with other Hall of Famers and Pro Bowlers. Many were defenders. Back then, the NFL was legal mayhem. Teams mugged each other. The quarterback was fair game. Last man standing wins.

The Chiefs have never made it back to the Super Bowl. There are many reasons for it. Near the top of the list is the quarterback problem. And as quarterbacks have become even more outsized in their impact on the games, the Chiefs have never really got it right.

This year, they’re in a familiar spot. Quarterback jail.

Good-guy Alex Smith, God bless him, is not getting it done though he is, or was, until of late, a cut above what the Chiefs typically have trotted out behind center. The San Diegan looks spooked. He’s taken more sacks than any other AFC quarterback. Defenses are again daring him to beat them downfield, and he’s not making them back off.

A new receiver who cost the Chiefs a lot of money, Jeremy Maclin, has helped. He has dropped only one pass in 40 chances. A young tight end, Travis Kelse, is a playmaker from the Gronk Lite mold.

But the offense was built around the running back, Jamaal Charles, and that usually doesn’t work so great in this era. When Charles was lost for the season two games ago, the Chiefs went on to blow a game, at home to the Bears. Charles was having his struggles. He fumbled twice against the Broncos, in another game the Chiefs tossed in the trash can at Arrowhead Stadium.

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The Chiefs are 1-5. Kansas Citians have another team to cheer, the Royals, who are on the verge of making it two World Series trips in two years. Missouri has gone from red state to blue state.

So, even with a talented defense, it looks like the Chiefs’ streak of playoff futility will stretch for another year.

The Chiefs last won a playoff game after the 1993 season.

Montana was their quarterback. He led them past the Pittsburgh Steelers and Houston, then known as the Oilers.

Then came the AFC Championhip Game in frigid Buffalo. Twelve degrees, wind chill. Montana looked older than his 37 years and the Bills pasted him and the Chiefs, 30-13.

The Chiefs haven’t gone back to the AFC title game. They’ve not won any playoff games. It can be done, but probably won’t until they get a snappier quarterback who can pile up all those yards and points that are there to be got every Sunday.

ToxSocks · 10-23-2015, 10:55 AM

No doubt about that.

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 10:55 AM

Wish we had an owner who would say this $hit wont stand.

BucEyedPea · 10-23-2015, 10:59 AM

No the Bucs share the same distinction these days.

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

No the Bucs share the same distinction these days.

No one thought the bucs were going to be a top 10 team this year.

Some websites had the chiefs ranked in the top 5 and said we would make a Superbowl run this year.

Discuss Thrower · 10-23-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

No one thought the bucs were going to be a top 10 team this year.

Some websites had the chiefs ranked in the top 5 and said we would make a Superbowl run this year.

And they were idiots for saying as much.

There was no difference between the level of talent last year compared to this year. Maclin hasn't been any more of a game changer than Bowe was and it wasn't hard to guess the line would be worse with a rookie center, and a guy who couldn't beat out Ryan Harris at RT now playing LT.

9-7 was their ceiling if they got every bounce going their way, and they'll still probably **** up and hit their floor of 6-10 to ensure they don't draft anyone good next year in what's being described as a weak class.

Because Chuefs

Urc Burry · 10-23-2015, 11:11 AM

We get it. We suck

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And they were idiots for saying as much.

There was no difference between the level of talent last year compared to this year. Maclin hasn't been any more of a game changer than Bowe was and it wasn't hard to guess the line would be worse with a rookie center, and a guy who couldn't beat out Ryan Harris at RT now playing LT.

9-7 was their ceiling if they got every bounce going their way, and they'll still probably **** up and hit their floor of 6-10 to ensure they don't draft anyone good next year in what's being described as a weak class.

Because Chuefs

This draft class coming up is nowhere near as bad as 2013

**Bob Dole** · 10-23-2015, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And they were idiots for saying as much.

There was no difference between the level of talent last year compared to this year. Maclin hasn't been any more of a game changer than Bowe was and it wasn't hard to guess the line would be worse with a rookie center, and a guy who couldn't beat out Ryan Harris at RT now playing LT.

9-7 was their ceiling if they got every bounce going their way, and they'll still probably **** up and hit their floor of 6-10 to ensure they don't draft anyone good next year in what's being described as a weak class.

Because Chuefs

Funny. The rookie center is the best lineman on the team at this point.

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And they were idiots for saying as much.

There was no difference between the level of talent last year compared to this year. Maclin hasn't been any more of a game changer than Bowe was and it wasn't hard to guess the line would be worse with a rookie center, and a guy who couldn't beat out Ryan Harris at RT now playing LT.

9-7 was their ceiling if they got every bounce going their way, and they'll still probably **** up and hit their floor of 6-10 to ensure they don't draft anyone good next year in what's being described as a weak class.

Because Chuefs

Talent level is higher
Maclin is huge upgrade over Bowe
Rookie center is bright spot of woeful O-line
Mental toughness is the difference.
Can't tell if it's because Reid just doesn't demand it, or he thought shouldering the blame would inspire his team instead of making them complacent, but that's the 2015 story.

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Talent level is higher
Maclin is huge upgrade over Bowe
Rookie center is bright spot of woeful O-line
Mental toughness is the difference.
Can't tell if it's because Reid just doesn't demand it, or he thought shouldering the blame would inspire his team instead of making them complacent, but that's the 2015 story.

Alex smith is gone mentally and the defense has given up on Sutton's scheme that's 2015 in a nutshell

**Baby Lee** · 10-23-2015, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Alex smith is gone mentally and the defense has given up on Sutton's scheme that's 2015 in a nutshell

And here's the question, would you rather try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with

a talentless team that plays hard
or
a talented team that plays soft?

Which quandary is more easily fixed IYO?

**RealSNR** · 10-23-2015, 11:34 AM

I hate how people say, "The offense was built around Jamaal Charles!"

No, it ****ing wasn't. In order for an offense to be built around the RB, you have to actually get your RB some ****ing touches.

And we never ****ing did.

Strongside · 10-23-2015, 11:37 AM

So ****ing tired of the "Gronk Lite" terminology with regard to Kelce. Put him on a team with Tom Brady and I'll bet a nut that he has bigger numbers than Gronkowski.

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And here's the question, would you rather try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with

a talentless team that plays hard
or
a talented team that plays soft?

Which quandary is more easily fixed IYO?

The 2nd can be fix with Coaching

For the record I think the chiefs are some where in the middle we are not as bad talent wise as our record show's

The team has given up on Reid and Smith this year you can see it on the field The DEN game destroyed them.

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oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5828993	Chiefs are NFL's most disappointing team http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...ontana-royals/ joe Montana is 59 years old, not far from Social Security. The notion of Joe taking another NFL snap is, of course, ludicrous, but when he talks about the pass-happy NFL of today and how The League caters to quarterbacks and receivers, Montana has joked that he wouldn’t mind getting back behind center. He sees wide receivers running free, unafraid. He sees a vast land of opportunity, where only narrow swaths existed in his day. Reporters ask Joe to compare, then and now. He obliges them. Asked about the passing parties the NFL stages every Sunday, in particular, the shallow crossing routes that the Patriots and Packers and Chargers are using to great effect, Joe Cool all but said these kids need to get off his yard. “If we’d tried that, the receiver wouldn’t have played another game for a month,” Montana told the Boston Herald's Ron Borges. Every generation has its own challenges. Back when Montana last played, in the mid-1990s, his challenge was his own team. The Kansas City Chiefs. They almost never get it right at quarterback. Sure, Len Dawson was a Hall of Famer. He helped them win a Super Bowl in 1970. An exception. The Chiefs surrounded Dawson with other Hall of Famers and Pro Bowlers. Many were defenders. Back then, the NFL was legal mayhem. Teams mugged each other. The quarterback was fair game. Last man standing wins. The Chiefs have never made it back to the Super Bowl. There are many reasons for it. Near the top of the list is the quarterback problem. And as quarterbacks have become even more outsized in their impact on the games, the Chiefs have never really got it right. This year, they’re in a familiar spot. Quarterback jail. Good-guy Alex Smith, God bless him, is not getting it done though he is, or was, until of late, a cut above what the Chiefs typically have trotted out behind center. The San Diegan looks spooked. He’s taken more sacks than any other AFC quarterback. Defenses are again daring him to beat them downfield, and he’s not making them back off. A new receiver who cost the Chiefs a lot of money, Jeremy Maclin, has helped. He has dropped only one pass in 40 chances. A young tight end, Travis Kelse, is a playmaker from the Gronk Lite mold. But the offense was built around the running back, Jamaal Charles, and that usually doesn’t work so great in this era. When Charles was lost for the season two games ago, the Chiefs went on to blow a game, at home to the Bears. Charles was having his struggles. He fumbled twice against the Broncos, in another game the Chiefs tossed in the trash can at Arrowhead Stadium. Chargers Huddle daily newsletter Sign up for our daily San Diego Chargers newsletter to get the latest news and analysis on the team from The San Diego Union-Tribune and from around the country. The best Chargers reporting, delivered to your inbox every day by 7 a.m. Don't miss out. Enter Email Submit The Chiefs are 1-5. Kansas Citians have another team to cheer, the Royals, who are on the verge of making it two World Series trips in two years. Missouri has gone from red state to blue state. So, even with a talented defense, it looks like the Chiefs’ streak of playoff futility will stretch for another year. The Chiefs last won a playoff game after the 1993 season. Montana was their quarterback. He led them past the Pittsburgh Steelers and Houston, then known as the Oilers. Then came the AFC Championhip Game in frigid Buffalo. Twelve degrees, wind chill. Montana looked older than his 37 years and the Bills pasted him and the Chiefs, 30-13. The Chiefs haven’t gone back to the AFC title game. They’ve not won any playoff games. It can be done, but probably won’t until they get a snappier quarterback who can pile up all those yards and points that are there to be got every Sunday.
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