Chiefs are NFL's most disappointing team

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

And they were idiots for saying as much.

There was no difference between the level of talent last year compared to this year. Maclin hasn't been any more of a game changer than Bowe was and it wasn't hard to guess the line would be worse with a rookie center, and a guy who couldn't beat out Ryan Harris at RT now playing LT.

9-7 was their ceiling if they got every bounce going their way, and they'll still probably **** up and hit their floor of 6-10 to ensure they don't draft anyone good next year in what's being described as a weak class.

Because Chuefs

Talent level is higher
Maclin is huge upgrade over Bowe
Rookie center is bright spot of woeful O-line
Mental toughness is the difference.
Can't tell if it's because Reid just doesn't demand it, or he thought shouldering the blame would inspire his team instead of making them complacent, but that's the 2015 story.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Talent level is higher
Maclin is huge upgrade over Bowe
Rookie center is bright spot of woeful O-line
Mental toughness is the difference.
Can't tell if it's because Reid just doesn't demand it, or he thought shouldering the blame would inspire his team instead of making them complacent, but that's the 2015 story.

Alex smith is gone mentally and the defense has given up on Sutton's scheme that's 2015 in a nutshell

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Alex smith is gone mentally and the defense has given up on Sutton's scheme that's 2015 in a nutshell

And here's the question, would you rather try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with

a talentless team that plays hard
or
a talented team that plays soft?

Which quandary is more easily fixed IYO?

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And here's the question, would you rather try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with

a talentless team that plays hard
or
a talented team that plays soft?

Which quandary is more easily fixed IYO?

The 2nd can be fix with Coaching

For the record I think the chiefs are some where in the middle we are not as bad talent wise as our record show's

The team has given up on Reid and Smith this year you can see it on the field The DEN game destroyed them.

[Graystoke]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

The 2nd can be fix with Coaching

For the record I think the chiefs are some where in the middle we are not as bad talent wise as our record show's

The team has given up on Reid and Smith this year you can see it on the field The DEN game destroyed them.

I have to agree with this. The Broncos at home, we had to beat them.
It was our Super Bowl, and we spent our wad on it and got beat.
If the Chiefs would have won that game I think mentally we would have game ready for the other opponents.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Graystoke

I have to agree with this. The Broncos at home, we had to beat them.
It was our Super Bowl, and we spent our wad on it and got beat.
If the Chiefs would have won that game I think mentally we would have game ready for the other opponents.

And that is on coaching Reid could not bring them back from the darkness and if he is here next year I don't see much changing it's one of the main Reasons I want to see a new Head coach when your team goes 1-15 in its 3rd year the players are never going to trust there Head coach again.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

And that is on coaching Reid could not bring them back from the darkness and if he is here next year I don't see much changing it's one of the main Reasons I want to see a new Head coach when your team goes 1-15 in its 3rd year the players are never going to trust there Head coach again.

I think Andy lost whatever mojo he had years ago, he has 21 wins in KC... and only 6 of those in the last two years were against teams that ended the season better than .500. Only 6... if KC can walk away, they should.

[Psyko Tek]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And here's the question, would you rather try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with

a talentless team that plays hard
or
a talented team that plays soft?

Which quandary is more easily fixed IYO?

I am thinking the second
a good coach can fix guys that can play

takes a great coach to fix guys that can't play

we got neither right now

rather have Gunther just because he yells at the crowd, like coaches the will yell what the ****
and flip people off, sorry George
but Jebus give me a coach that cares about winning

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Talent level is higher
Maclin is huge upgrade over Bowe
Rookie center is bright spot of woeful O-line
Mental toughness is the difference.
Can't tell if it's because Reid just doesn't demand it, or he thought shouldering the blame would inspire his team instead of making them complacent, but that's the 2015 story.

Obviously the talent level is not higher. 1-5 compared to 3-3 (and 6-0 if you wanna be really cute).

How is Maclin a "huge" upgrade? The offense can't stay on the field for more than six plays and isn't scoring points. That's no different than last year with Bowe.

Because, shocking revelation here, neither Bowe nor Maclin are going to succeed when there isn't a credible receiving threat opposite them combined with a QB that refuses to take chances downfield. Not like several others and myself here haven't pointed that out for the better part of two years.

Morse has been decent, but everything else hasn't improved... because the Chiefs more or less switched Hudson with Grubbs. The line was supposedly terrible last year so it shouldn't have shocked anyone that it's not any better when your best OL is signed away as a FA and thus you're forced to trade for another vet at a different position. It's shocked everyone here apparently that the line isn't good when a "moron" like myself that wasn't an all state class 2A football player ten years ago could figure that shit out.

A lack of mental toughness or whatever one wants to call it hasn't a facet of the team in the last 15 years. It definitely hasn't been around in the last three when the highlight of veteran leadership has been Derrick Johnson peacing the **** out of the locker room before the media could have a chance to start sourcing interviews after losing three straight divisional games in 2013. Or when the team laid down to Denver the first game after Berry's diagnosis was made public last year. They really got one for the Gipper there, didn't they?

I'm not in the lockerroom so I don't know why this has been the case and don't know how Reid is managing things obviously, but maybe it's not all too surprising that he's not a good coach when most of his success came with a then-dynamic QB in McNabb making the most out of guys like Brian Westbrook and Terrell Owens and a great defensive coordinator in Jim Johnson. Again, this wasn't all that hard to predict for a moron like me.. Maybe I was wrong about not being able to hack it as a sports columnist if I as a moron had the more accurate prediction and provided so free of charge unlike the pundits who are apparently stealing money from their publications.