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staylor26 · 07-28-2017, 12:24 PM

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Uh oh: #Raiders standout LT Donald Penn is not reporting for training camp, source said. He's unhappy with his contract.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/...%3Ft%3D2510541

**** didn't mean to put this under Chiefs

BlackOp · 07-30-2017, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrzman

How do you explain the 800 yards in penalties the Raiders had in the Bucs game???..

Here are some Raider fan quotes after the Bucs rig job...keep in mind, I haven't even got to the Texans game yet.

"A weak 6-2 team that could be 2-6."

"Are we the most unisciplined 6-2 in the history of the league?"

"I don't now how the **** we are doing this"

I know EXACTLY how you keep doing this.....

BlackOp · 07-30-2017, 10:59 PM

Here's what Texans thought thought of being a part of the magical Raiders-Vegas hype agenda...the last one sums it up.

"Cheated on the spot on 3rd down and cheated on the spot on 4th down. Unreal."

"I think the refs have been bought by the Mexican government, incredibly."

"I never complain about the refs but this is unbelievable."

"We arn't going to beat the Raiders AND the Zebras at the same time."

"the NFL's clear agenda on who they want to win and succeed."

"This loss goes on the NFL and the officiating crew....I cant believe they had the audacity to call that game the way they did on NATIONAL TV in front of a NATIONAL AUDIENCE"

"wow never seen a game so awfully officiated in my life"

"We won plain and simple but the refs and the NFL gift wrapped this game for them with unbelievable blatant calls"

"Absolutely disgusted. But this time it's not because of the Texans. I am absolutely disgusted by the obvious bias against the Texans by the NFL and officiating crew. If they have already chosen a winner for the game, there is nothing that can be done to change the ending. "

"We've all watched games and a call or two go your way or against, but this game, wow. I can't help think that the NFL powers wanted the Raiders to win in front of their (home town) of Mexico."

"Lots of blown calls all in favor of the Raiders in every quarter"

"We have been robbed this game that we deserved. I'm so frustrated. I'll probably need to get off the Internet before I get in trouble."

" these have to be union NFL refs. NFL has to be in on the fix or these refs would lose their jobs."

"Its time to sell all 4 of my PSLs...these games are fixed. The refs have full control...and I thought the NBA was bad. "

"I do not no what to say."

"Tell me this isnt rigged some how ? Im mad as hell at this BS !!”

"This is becoming as realistic as WWF."

"That was a first down. Heck it was a first down on the play before. Worst game I've watched in officiating."

"Before the game, I was a little puzzled how the Raiders had won seven games. They surely can't be that good. Then I saw the refs, and now I fully understand." ''

It's interesting.... the pattern that fans from multiple teams arent just pissed about ticky-tack officiating like normal...they are collectively saying "its the worst I've ever seen".

Quesadilla Joe · 08-23-2017, 02:28 PM

Mike Silver isn't the most reliable reporter but...

Quote:

Asked about the ongoing absence of Donald Penn, Silver didn't sound like he's expecting to see the left tackle at team headquarter in the immediate future.

“My reporting has not suggested that Donald Penn is coming back,” Silver said.

“I believe the only way you would see him come back at this point would be if there was, let's say, understanding between the two parties (that) though a new deal is not done that moment that they are on the path to completing (one).

“My understanding is that that's not the case,” Silver continued. “So right now, I think we're still in a holding pattern and it's very much an impasse.”

As Silver pointed out, the mood surrounding the situation — for Penn, his teammates and his coaches and the front office — is only going to get more stressful.

“Well, holdouts are supposed to be uncomfortable, right?” Silver said. “So, everybody's supposed to be getting jumpier as it gets closer to the season.”

“That's the idea from Donald Penn's perspective and that's the idea from the team's perspective – who's most uncomfortable and who has the leverage?”

http://www.957thegame.com/articles/s...-uncomfortable

There is no way that Raiders can or will add money to this deal. Would lead to a flood of players knocking on door over next few years https://t.co/9DfuBcPnY2
— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) August 23, 2017

staylor26 · 08-23-2017, 02:31 PM

If Penn misses a significant amount of time, the Raiders are ****ed

Nickel D · 08-23-2017, 02:41 PM

The Penn is mightier than Dee Ford.

Urc Burry · 08-23-2017, 02:41 PM

Osemele played some LT for Baltimore didn't he? I know Oakland payed him like one, but either way that's going to be a huge blow to an elite line

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-23-2017, 02:52 PM

They will still sweep Denver, blowmo

**Bwana** · 08-23-2017, 03:14 PM

Dear Penn:

You are worth 10X the money they are paying you. If they offer you less than that, tell them to **** off and hold out for the entire season!

Best,

The KC Chiefs fans

ToxSocks · 08-23-2017, 03:20 PM

.....AAAAAND just like that, his hold-out is over.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4097/donald-penn

Raiders LT Donald Penn has ended his holdout.
This was an expected move. Penn missed the first 26 days of training camp over a dispute with his 2017 salary. He didn't get a raise, but talks could open up now that he's back. Penn has a chance to play in the Raiders' third preseason game. Aug 23 - 5:09 PM
Source: Paul Gutierrez on Twitter

DJ's left nut · 08-23-2017, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

.....AAAAAND just like that, his hold-out is over.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4097/donald-penn

Raiders LT Donald Penn has ended his holdout.
This was an expected move. Penn missed the first 26 days of training camp over a dispute with his 2017 salary. He didn't get a raise, but talks could open up now that he's back. Penn has a chance to play in the Raiders' third preseason game. Aug 23 - 5:09 PM
Source: Paul Gutierrez on Twitter

Ya don't ****in' say...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Penn's on a one-year deal and looking for a long-term contract. If the Raiders want to give him one, they will. If they don't, he'll be gone after this season. All fairly straigthforward.

Now, combine that with their ability to fine his ass $30,000 per day and suddenly he doesn't really seem to have them by the nesmonds anymore, now does he?

The Raiders can do what they want to do here. They can decide they weren't going to bring him back in '18 anyway so their relationship with him doesn't matter and fine the shit out of him. Or they can go ahead and give him the long-term deal they were going to have to give him next season anyway (the only distinction being a bit of frontloading).

Much ado about nothing. He's not going to miss any games; dude's too old to do that shit and if he gets hurt because he jaked camp, any chance at a serious payday at 35 yrs old next season will vanish. He'll rattle his saber a bit but if the Raiders tell him to **** off and play, he'll play. They'll waive the fines and time will march on.

Penn didn't hold shit for leverage here, as badly as folks wanted it to be so. He wasn't going to miss time and the Raiders were under no obligation to fold under for an old LT with one year left on his deal.

Now they'll maybe circle back and extend him, but only if they wanted to do so anyway.

This went exactly how I figured it would.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-23-2017, 04:01 PM

The dude is 34 years old. The wheels could fall off at any time.

Hopefully, the Raiders extend him and he shits the bed.

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07-30-2017, 10:59 PM	#62
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2595267	Here's what Texans thought thought of being a part of the magical Raiders-Vegas hype agenda...the last one sums it up. "Cheated on the spot on 3rd down and cheated on the spot on 4th down. Unreal." "I think the refs have been bought by the Mexican government, incredibly." "I never complain about the refs but this is unbelievable." "We arn't going to beat the Raiders AND the Zebras at the same time." "the NFL's clear agenda on who they want to win and succeed." "This loss goes on the NFL and the officiating crew....I cant believe they had the audacity to call that game the way they did on NATIONAL TV in front of a NATIONAL AUDIENCE" "wow never seen a game so awfully officiated in my life" "We won plain and simple but the refs and the NFL gift wrapped this game for them with unbelievable blatant calls" "Absolutely disgusted. But this time it's not because of the Texans. I am absolutely disgusted by the obvious bias against the Texans by the NFL and officiating crew. If they have already chosen a winner for the game, there is nothing that can be done to change the ending. " "We've all watched games and a call or two go your way or against, but this game, wow. I can't help think that the NFL powers wanted the Raiders to win in front of their (home town) of Mexico." "Lots of blown calls all in favor of the Raiders in every quarter" "We have been robbed this game that we deserved. I'm so frustrated. I'll probably need to get off the Internet before I get in trouble." " these have to be union NFL refs. NFL has to be in on the fix or these refs would lose their jobs." "Its time to sell all 4 of my PSLs...these games are fixed. The refs have full control...and I thought the NBA was bad. " "I do not no what to say." "Tell me this isnt rigged some how ? Im mad as hell at this BS !!” "This is becoming as realistic as WWF." "That was a first down. Heck it was a first down on the play before. Worst game I've watched in officiating." "Before the game, I was a little puzzled how the Raiders had won seven games. They surely can't be that good. Then I saw the refs, and now I fully understand." '' It's interesting.... the pattern that fans from multiple teams arent just pissed about ticky-tack officiating like normal...they are collectively saying "its the worst I've ever seen". Last edited by BlackOp; 07-31-2017 at 02:03 AM..
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08-23-2017, 02:31 PM	#64
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08-23-2017, 04:01 PM	#71
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