7/30/22 Training Camp Discussion

[Buehler445]

I’m ready.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I've been as critical as anyone of Clark.

Well, maybe not as much as those of you who are clinically insane, but as much as any reasonable person should be.

Clark wasn't showing much 'want to' last season, and that never sits well with me.

If he's got his mind and body right, then he is capable of being a very good DE. I'm cautiously optimistic. He's taking responsibiity, and that's a good sign. We'll see.

I don't have very high hopes for his production but the fact that he is spending extra time with Karlaftis is encouraging. If he didn't care about the team he wouldn't do that. I never got the sense that anything he did was about the team last season.

[TwistedChief]

They're off today.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

They're off today.

I’m sure something will come out today.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

All but one of those sacks meant absolutely nothing. The only one that mattered only happened because of Chris Jones. Anyone could have made that play. Dude deserves absolutely no credit for anything.

Then get your fatass away from the computer and tell Clark you’re ready to save the Chiefs some money. What a dumbass. 2/3 record breaking sacks against the Texans were on big 3rd down plays. Watch more football and you won’t come across like an absolute ****ing moron everytime you post. Also acting like those sacks were all he brought to that defense after containing the most elite RB of our generation who was on a complete tear in the postseason just shows how much you understand the value of a DE. Anyone who understands football knows we don’t have any championships without the Frank Clark deal ever being made.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

They're off today.

Yeah, no need to put a new thread up when there is no practice today.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Anyone who understands football knows we don’t have any championships without the Frank Clark deal ever being made.

Welll we already had 1 SB championship.

I agree without Clark, we don't win the SB in 2019. But, you can say that about 4-5 players on that team.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

He can't.

He is literal trash. You can see it on tape, he's slow, weak, and uncreative.

So you allege that he is the dilphag9 of the NFL?

Not sure id go that far. The jealousy over a player as maligned as Clark still putting up more numbers than number 1 in your spank bank, Chris "playoff invisible" Jones in the games that matter is really negatively affecting your judgement.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

He said this all the way back in 2019 https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...ith-the-chiefs

The guy is full of shit

Well your link doesn't work for me, so I can't comment on that.

But I do know a little about how a substance can seem innocuous for years, in my case it was craft beers, and its effects over time. As well as other people I've known that had similar experiences with other foods/substances in their own lives. Sometimes you think you know what's happening, but then find out much later that those effects were actually cumulative, not discrete.

And I don't think you get just how difficult it is to do what he did yesterday.

To stand up in front of a bunch of people, reporters in fact, and admit what he did and take full responsibility for it, in front of cameras no less, is not an easy thing. It had to be pretty hard for someone as prideful as any NFL player, much less Frank. That takes a certain amount of guts, and a person has to be comfortable with themselves to do it as well as he did.

And then there's the fact that he just looks leaner and in better health than he ever has as a Chief, and even seems clearer-eyed than I've ever seen him in a presser.

But the fact remains that he lost even me last season, so it is going to take an incredible series of performances this season for me to buy back into the Shark. But he does at least appear to be on the right track, so I feel like there's a glimmer of hope there.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

The jealousy over a player as maligned as Clark still putting up more numbers than number 1 in your spank bank, Chris "playoff invisible" Jones in the games that matter is really negatively affecting your judgement.

I'm sure we'll be spending plenty of time on that topic if Veach moves Jones for picks after this season...

[xztop123]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Then get your fatass away from the computer and tell Clark you’re ready to save the Chiefs some money. What a dumbass. 2/3 record breaking sacks against the Texans were on big 3rd down plays. Watch more football and you won’t come across like an absolute ****ing moron everytime you post. Also acting like those sacks were all he brought to that defense after containing the most elite RB of our generation who was on a complete tear in the postseason just shows how much you understand the value of a DE. Anyone who understands football knows we don’t have any championships without the Frank Clark deal ever being made.

Well that obviously depends on who we replaced him with.

Part of the problem is spags obsession with 270+ pound de’s in his system. They all tend to be bull rushers without many speed moves.

Not really sure why he wants such big de