Chiefs Some Quick Things - Page 7

Chris Meck · 11-07-2022, 06:40 AM

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved.

2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment.

3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones.

4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field.

5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either.

6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look.

7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit.

8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again.

9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

DJ's left nut · 11-07-2022, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

It just feels like he's a long speed guy who'd work if we gave Pat the time, but this OL with these OTs...I don't think he works. Maybe he's clearing guys out but I don't see the openness. But I miss plenty of this stuff so you could be right

Easier to see from the stands than the television. He was there. Maybe being a 3rd read just keeps him off the sheet as much

O.city · 11-07-2022, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

It just feels like he's a long speed guy who'd work if we gave Pat the time, but this OL with these OTs...I don't think he works. Maybe he's clearing guys out but I don't see the openness. But I miss plenty of this stuff so you could be right

Everyone wants to trash this OL.

God damn it, the QB needs to take some of the heat on this. Yeah, you got hit a few times. Shit happens.

Stand in there and throw the football to the guys getting open.

JPH83 · 11-07-2022, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Without reading the replies yet...

Kelce was off last night. That is uncharacteristic and I don't expect we'll that again this year.
When should we expect to see some sacks from Karlaftis?
When should we expect to see some yards and touchdowns from Skyy?

I'm going to be honest, if Karlaftis ends up a bust then I'll own that, i liked him as much as everyone. If Moore busts I'm 100% blaming that f***er Toub and his s****y ST coaching. Zero acceptance of being wrong, I will die on this hill.

JPH83 · 11-07-2022, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Everyone wants to trash this OL.

God damn it, the QB needs to take some of the heat on this. Yeah, you got hit a few times. Shit happens.

Stand in there and throw the football to the guys getting open.

Yeah don't disagree entirely. But man, those OTs are just...not good. I mean come on.

raybec 4 · 11-07-2022, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

I'm going to be honest, if Karlaftis ends up a bust then I'll own that, i liked him as much as everyone. If Moore busts I'm 100% blaming that f***er Toub and his s****y ST coaching. Zero acceptance of being wrong, I will die on this hill.

With Karlaftis work ethic I really don't see bust being a label he could earn. He will take time, absolutely but he will have every bit as good a career as Tamba had IMO.

JPH83 · 11-07-2022, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

With Karlaftis work ethic I really don't see bust being a label he could earn. He will take time, absolutely but he will have every bit as good a career as Tamba had IMO.

Pretty much my take, but I also thought he'd do a lot more this year

Marcellus · 11-07-2022, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Everyone wants to trash this OL.

God damn it, the QB needs to take some of the heat on this. Yeah, you got hit a few times. Shit happens.

Stand in there and throw the football to the guys getting open.

The QB who threw for 450 yards last night is leading the NFL in passing yards per game and is running this offense?

RedRaider56 · 11-07-2022, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Everyone wants to trash this OL.

God damn it, the QB needs to take some of the heat on this. Yeah, you got hit a few times. Shit happens.

Stand in there and throw the football to the guys getting open.

Mahomes stood inside a collapsing pocket plenty of times last night..Took a few sacks because of it, too...

DRM08 · 11-07-2022, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

The QB who threw for 450 yards last night is leading the NFL in passing yards per game and is running this offense?

The Chiefs offense has struggled in 5 of 8 games. That's 5 games against AFC opponents where they scored about 21 points per game, excluding Justin Herbert's Pick 6. The only 3 games where the Chiefs offense looked great was against NFC opponents. That's great for a potential Super Bowl matchup against a NFC team, but what about making it through the AFC playoffs? 21 points per game against AFC opponents is a bad trend.

Mahomes, the OL, the RB's, the receivers, and the coaches need to find a way to have much stronger performance in the later part of this season, especially the AFC playoffs. 21 points per game against the likes of Buffalo, Miami, or Cincy is going to prevent you from reaching a Super Bowl. They're damn lucky the Titans had a struggling backup QB or they probably lose that game last night against Tannehill.

Megatron96 · 11-07-2022, 02:17 PM

I think Karlaftis will be fine. He is trying to chain moves together, as evidenced by that clip I posted a few days ago. He's about a step slow going from one move to the next, imo.

So he's been about a step to a step and a half away from actually getting some sacks this season. That can be cleaned up.

In the meantime, he's obviously been getting quite a few pressures, and he's been pretty solid vs. the run so far. He even made a couple last night, as I recall. A really nice one where he was supposed to be rushing, but recognized that the ball went to the RB (not Henry), reversed himself and made the tackle for just a two or three yard gain.

He'll be fine.

O.city · 11-07-2022, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

The QB who threw for 450 yards last night is leading the NFL in passing yards per game and is running this offense?

I mean, he threw 68 passes. Yeah, he had alot of yards.

When we talk about the Chiefs defense, yards don't matter points do.

Now yards matter?

He didn't play a good game and I'd guarantee he'd be the first to tell you so.

Marcellus · 11-07-2022, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

The Chiefs offense has struggled in 5 of 8 games. That's 5 games against AFC opponents where they scored about 21 points per game, excluding Justin Herbert's Pick 6. The only 3 games where the Chiefs offense looked great was against NFC opponents. That's great for a potential Super Bowl matchup against a NFC team, but what about making it through the AFC playoffs? 21 points per game against AFC opponents is a bad trend.

Mahomes, the OL, the RB's, the receivers, and the coaches need to find a way to have much stronger performance in the later part of this season, especially the AFC playoffs. 21 points per game against the likes of Buffalo, Miami, or Cincy is going to prevent you from reaching a Super Bowl. They're damn lucky the Titans had a struggling backup QB or they probably lose that game last night against Tannehill.

You are reading way too much into the breakdown of what conference the teams are from. They have had tight games against teams that typically play them tight with the exception of the Raiders but it was a division game so they are always a challenge.

The fact is they have the best offense in football so if they are "struggling" they are doing that better than any other team in the NFL.

No they aren't perfect, Mahomes isn't perfect, but usually when they aren't scoring its mostly self inflicted. Last night they just got outplayed up front. Mahomes was pressured 22 times. So that's about 1/3rd of his drop backs and he actually stood in the pocket more than usual.

Pitt Gorilla · 11-07-2022, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Easier to see from the stands than the television. He was there. Maybe being a 3rd read just keeps him off the sheet as much

There's a lot of talent on this offense and only one football. Agree, though, that Pat didn't see him a couple times.

Marcellus · 11-07-2022, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I mean, he threw 68 passes. Yeah, he had alot of yards.

When we talk about the Chiefs defense, yards don't matter points do.

Now yards matter?

He didn't play a good game and I'd guarantee he'd be the first to tell you so.

Wasn't his "best" game but to say he didn't play a "good" game is absolutely and totally absurd.

And yea 500 total yards of offense and 2 TD's absolutely matters. Just like the 7 total yards the defense gave up after half.

BTW how many drops did KC have? 4?

O.city · 11-07-2022, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Wasn't his "best" game but to say he didn't play a "good" game is absolutely and totally absurd.

And yea 500 total yards of offense and 2 TD's absolutely matters. Just like the 7 total yards the defense gave up after half.

BTW how many drops did KC have? 4?

Now you're using TD's. Yes, scores matter.

But 14 points?

11-07-2022, 06:40 AM
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1325090	Some Quick Things Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits. 1. I don't think Titans win with a hobbled Tannehill, either. Willis' outside mobility was their second best weapon. Tannehill would've completed some passes, but also would've been a sitting duck and the Chiefs' pass rush was improved. 2. Chiefs defense was outstanding. Derrick Henry is a MAN out there, and other than the one big run, they bottled him up pretty well. Those of you calling for Spags head are NUTS. Spags has been a magician this year, playing all these rookies, and still dials up the perfect play in the crucial moment. 3. Saunders needs MOAR SNAPS. He's clearly better than Nnadi. In fact, he certainly appears to be our best DT not named Jones. 4.Wylie blows goats. He's absolutely terrible, and overmatched on an NFL field. 5. Trey Smith...I don't know what's going on, but he's not been playing all that well either. 6. OBJ is not good enough. At his best, he's average. Demanding top of the market pay when you're not very good is a bad look. 7. 68 passes? Yeesh. Our inability to run the ball has got to be fixed. You can't do that every game. You just can't. I know Wylie can't run block either, but I don't understand why the other four just cannot open holes when that's supposed to be each of their strong suit. 8. The Titans are what they always are; they're a problem. They're tough, they're physical, they're well coached. You can hate Vrabel if you want, but he always has his guys ready to play hard for him. That was a VERY disciplined defense. I didn't see anything all that fancy happening coverage-wise. They just executed. They're going to be back in the play-offs again. 9. Butker. What's up with that? Dooooooood. 10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1909600	I think Karlaftis will be fine. He is trying to chain moves together, as evidenced by that clip I posted a few days ago. He's about a step slow going from one move to the next, imo. So he's been about a step to a step and a half away from actually getting some sacks this season. That can be cleaned up. In the meantime, he's obviously been getting quite a few pressures, and he's been pretty solid vs. the run so far. He even made a couple last night, as I recall. A really nice one where he was supposed to be rushing, but recognized that the ball went to the RB (not Henry), reversed himself and made the tackle for just a two or three yard gain. He'll be fine. __________________ *“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”*- George Orwell Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
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