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Old 12-06-2022, 12:11 PM  
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Salary Cap could exceed $220 million
Was $208 million this year.

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/salary-cap-...estions-remain

If we carry over our almost $5 million in cap then next year we have over $40 million in cap space before any cuts.

So basically gonna have a lotta money dawg
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Old 12-07-2022, 09:28 AM   #76
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It's not a WR problem. It's a tackle problem. We don't need a #1 WR, they need the billion dollar QB to not get antsy in the pocket and the T"s to not get blown by.
This.

Both lines need addressed before anything else.
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Old 12-07-2022, 09:30 AM   #77
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I’d re sign JuJu, sign a top LT and focus on revamping the DL
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:40 AM   #78
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an almost entirely new WR corps, man. In a notoriously complex offense requiring post snap reads and route adjustments from the WR's in real time, on the fly.

I don't think they're 'system guys' so much as they have differing skillsets. You have a couple with incredible long speed in Hardman, MVS.. You have one that's very physical in Juju. You have a couple with elite quickness, with Hardman again, Moore, and Toney. There is some youth there with Moore and Toney, so there's some projection but we're not drafting top 5-we won't get the Jamarr Chase's.

Our problems offensively stem from 1)poor OT play, 2)Mahomes still sometimes will not take the easy outlet pass and 3)a lot of new parts.

Despite all of that, this is a top NFL offense. And Kelce won't just fall off the cliff, barring catastrophic injury. He may slow down, but he's got a long way to go before he's JAG.
Like I said, I think we’ve got great WRs. But the all need to get bumped one position down. Juju is a great possession guy… for a WR that can open it up underneath. MVS is an over the top guy. Skyy is intriguing but likely not a WR1. Hardman and Toney are terrific… within a specific lane. All these guys get significantly better if we have a WR1 who can consistently beat stud CBs like tredavious white.

Most of our offense is run around efficiency so I don’t get the idea that mahomes needs to somehow be way more efficient. You know how burrow gets rid of the ball quickly? Chase quickly beats his man and then throws the ball anywhere remotely near his catch radius. Of course we gotta get better protection and mahomes needs to continue to progress as a pocket qb. We’re doing that. The idea that we need to put all our eggs in that basket for a qb this talented is a waste. We can run an efficient offense and have explosive playmakers at the same time.
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:42 AM   #79
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The offense is better this year than it was last year.

Of course you'd like to keep Hill, he's gone. Move on.
When the **** did I ever say that? Although I think he’d be great. What I want is a WR1 who can quickly and reliably beat man coverage, even against the best CBs in the league. That’s gonna make our offense a hell of a lot more dangerous than an all world offensive line. We need a better OL, that doesn’t mean we need to put all our eggs in that basket.
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:43 AM   #80
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Like I said, I think we’ve got great WRs. But the all need to get bumped one position down. Juju is a great possession guy… for a WR that can open it up underneath. MVS is an over the top guy. Skyy is intriguing but likely not a WR1. Hardman and Toney are terrific… within a specific lane. All these guys get significantly better if we have a WR1 who can consistently beat stud CBs like tredavious white.

Most of our offense is run around efficiency so I don’t get the idea that mahomes needs to somehow be way more efficient. You know how burrow gets rid of the ball quickly? Chase quickly beats his man and then throws the ball anywhere remotely near his catch radius. Of course we gotta get better protection and mahomes needs to continue to progress as a pocket qb. We’re doing that. The idea that we need to put all our eggs in that basket for a qb this talented is a waste. We can run an efficient offense and have explosive playmakers at the same time.
Chase was the #5 overall pick. Where are we getting that?
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:45 AM   #81
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When the **** did I ever say that? Although I think he’d be great. What I want is a WR1 who can quickly and reliably beat man coverage, even against the best CBs in the league. That’s gonna make our offense a hell of a lot more dangerous than an all world offensive line. We need a better OL, that doesn’t mean we need to put all our eggs in that basket.
You're saying that right there. They had that guy, they traded him.

So the Chiefs don't think they need what you want.
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:45 AM   #82
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Sure, but a huge cost. What we do between now and then will determine whether we can afford to get into that arms race. Or whether we NEED to.

We've got Toney for 3 years cost controlled. Get that kid into a yoga studio all offseason, and maybe we've got something.

Skyy Moore, despite a slow start (which should have been expected) has been coming on.

We have a decision to make on Juju and MVS. We have a decision to make on Hardman, who despite not becoming a true #2 is still a real weapon. Missing time this year actually helps the numbers come contract talk time.

Take another WR in the 2nd-4th rounds to develop and see where you're at in '24.
If they bring back Juju or Hardman, I think you can go into next year without a major investment at the WR position while we add pieces to the edge on offense and defense.

And god damn this WR core has some SERIOUS potential if they can stay healthy. Too bad that’s an unrealistic IF

Toney, Ross, Skyy and MVS all with a year in the system…IF HEALTHY that’s a pretty good amount of potential for WR 1-4. Bringing back Watson and either Hardman or Juju would give us all we need at WR in 2023.
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Old 12-07-2022, 11:49 AM   #83
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You're saying that right there. They had that guy, they traded him.

So the Chiefs don't think they need what you want.
Except the chiefs were willing to pay $22m for that guy. And they apparently were very aggressively considering WRs like Jameson Williams. And DJ Moore. They didn’t pull the trigger because the market was too absurd. Every indication is that the chiefs had a lot of interest in walking into this year with a WR1 even after signing juju and Mvs.

And I don’t disagree with them there. I don’t want to pay an obscene price for these guys. I actually like the tyreek trade in many ways. But let’s be real guys. Can anyone honestly say we have a true WR1, kelce aside?
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Except the chiefs were willing to pay $22m for that guy. And they apparently were very aggressively considering WRs like Jameson Williams. And DJ Moore. They didn’t pull the trigger because the market was too absurd. Every indication is that the chiefs had a lot of interest in walking into this year with a WR1 even after signing juju and Mvs.

And I don’t disagree with them there. I don’t want to pay an obscene price for these guys. I actually like the tyreek trade in many ways. But let’s be real guys. Can anyone honestly say we have a true WR1, kelce aside?
Do we ****ing need one when we have Mahomes and can't keep him upright?
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I'd be all for letting Thuney get a shot at LT and working on getting a guard.
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Do we ****ing need one when we have Mahomes and can't keep him upright?
Well, like I said, of course we need to get him upright. But does that mean we spend top dollar? My point isn’t to say we ignore the OL. It’s to ask do you want a stellar OL with studs all around with an average WRs. Or do we build a solid line and surround with playmakers. I’d rather the latter
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I'd be all for letting Thuney get a shot at LT and working on getting a guard.
Just put Alligretti there then. He’s solid
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I'd be all for letting Thuney get a shot at LT and working on getting a guard.
This shit isn't happening and I really wish people would stop bringing it up.
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I'd be all for letting Thuney get a shot at LT and working on getting a guard.
Why? go get a "good" LT, which is probably the absolute best you could hope for if put Thuney there and that is a big if.

If you get a "good" LT, couple him with a great LG (Thuney), get a decent RT, you can still go get some DL help. The draft then becomes best available.
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Chase was the #5 overall pick. Where are we getting that?
We’re obviously not getting a chase. But there are guys like DJ Moore or Corey Davis. Or hell, plenty of draft talent. I love our WRs but I don’t think we have a true wr1. Do we have guys you’re comfortable playing man against sauce Gardner or tredavius white? Or hell, now we’re going to have Taylor Britt and eventually awuzie for the bengals. There are defenses out there who are trying to beat our WRs up and prove we can consistently beat man even against the top DBs. Based on what we saw in Tennessee, cincy and buffalo, do we feel this WR corps is up for that task? We know our OL isn’t, but I think mahomes has covered up some of the shortcomings of these WRs. Those games were not as comfortable as we remember and it’s not just because of pass pro.
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